Carl Sagan

Knowing Bransons love of a photo shoot I half expected him to wind the window down and stick his head out with a big grin on his face and a thumbs up.

I'd challenge that Bezos is in this for the tourism business - both he and Musk see the broader objective. Nice story that Musk and Bezos had dinner to see if they could work together, it didn't go well as Musk wanted to take a faster approach than Bezos felt comfortable with and Musk was saying he was happy to help get Bezos up to speed a bit with all his learnings (something that an ego like Bezos probably didn't appreciate). Consequently, every time a Space-X ship goes up it has a little hare painted on the side, Blue Origin put a little tortoise on theirs (painting, not a real one - that would be cruel). Whether Branson sees this as tourism funds the bigger project or if he just thinks that a few thousand people ponying up £180k is all he wants from it, time will tell.
Other story was that Bezos was very clear to his lawyers that the one part of his estate he wanted to keep in his divorce was the Blue Origin part. Warehousing is so yesterday - even if it made him the richest man on the planet.
Musk is an absolute sponge, by all accounts. Space engineers who worked with him three or four years ago thought he was a barm pot, the same people now say he has become a well regarded authority on the topic.
Both realise the business potential of space - I can't remember the name of it but an asteroid passed the Earth recently that was estimated to have more rare earth metals than we currently have access to in our own crust. Others see spinning rocks like the Moon as potential dumping grounds for us in the future - who cares how much CO2 we produce if it's all bilging out into space?
And if you think that all sounds a bit madcap remember that at the start of the 20th century no human had ever flown in any other object than a balloon, by the end of it we had a permanently manned space station orbiting the Earth.

Actually, that's a tenner lady. She's one of our own....

Can never be too hot. I love the heat, I should live on the Equator.

I might need some wipes for my legs. They are baked...

Loads of bad times but for me this is the one. Our only hope seemed to be to keep the club going on FA Cup gate receipts but we lost at home to lowly Plymouth with a corner going straight in over Steve Cherry's head on a miserable night and it seemed it was the last game Derby County would ever play.
Clough resigning was terrible. Equally terrible was when him and Taylor came back a few years later and were going to take over again, and everything was going to be all right. They turned up at the Baseball Ground to rubber stamp the agreement but the afternoon dragged on and on and the expected announcement never came, and all the hope evaporated. My recollection is that when they spoke about later, no one cold put their finger on why they didn't come home to us.  Eleven points was embarrassing. The Three Amigos were rightly hated. But 1984 was the worst.
This is bad but I'm more detached from it.

The most depressing time for me was spring 1984, instead of being able to celebrate our centenary, we faced repeated High Court appearances to have the club wound up. The final straw appeared to have been on the day of the home defeat to Plymouth in the FA Cup quarter final. Our 'final' appeal at the high court had been thrown out earlier that day, no potential new owner seemed likely and the only hope of salvation seemed to be in a possible FA Cup final appearance. The game at home to Plymouth, struggling in div 3, with a Semi final with the next weakest team left in the competition beckoned and gave us hope. We lost to a solitary goal direct from a corner and as we made our way home, I feared that that was the last game I would see as a Derby supporter.
However, salvation, in the form of Robert Maxwell, seemed to appear from nowhere. Although, it didn't end well with Maxwell, I do wonder what would have happened to club, if he hadn't turned up when he did.

No, but it’s clear the club have some bridges to rebuild with the fans.
Despite not achieving promotion we have had some real good atmospheres around the club, whilst some may find it hard to believe, we’ve been lucky. 
Many clubs out there that have gone years without a sniff of any kind of cup or promotion to enjoy.
I don’t want to get into the blame game or the EFL’s role in the position we’re in, but it’s not a great situation.
Reading across social media, seeing so many fans feeling disconnected is not great, and as I say we need to see bridges rebuilt, ideally starting before the first game of the season. 
I’m not one to call for answers from the club, I would rather they spend every hour working on improving the situation as we have too many outstanding issues that need resolving.
Saying that, I do feel like the club need to host a fan forum asap, whilst some see these as nothing more than PR stunts, some good PR is needed to lift the spirits.
I fear the atmosphere for the opening game could be extremely toxic if we go into the start of the season under so many question marks.
As fans though, we need to play our part no matter how hard it is, we have to get behind the players we have and Rooney, dial back the criticisms and as cliche as it sounds, be that 12th man/woman.
If we can’t do that in our hour of need, then why are we even here? 
Toxic atmospheres, attacking the club will not help the situation at all, it just won’t, so the question is, how much do we love this club? Right now is the time to show it and come together and try to focus on the positives and help create some optimism going into what will be a difficult season without a doubt.

I'm just disinterested now, every single month or so since the Joiners debacle I've been hoping that something gives me the hope back, but month on month it's just never ending disappointment, to the point where I really can't be bothered anymore and have found other things to spend my time on.
I do occasionally check to see whether there's any signs of things changing, but here we are still seemingly at square one.

Nah. Some of Maxwell and the 3 Amigos were worse.
TBH when Longson sacked Clough that was the worst ever.

After the “leak”  the following day Thursday the 8th May, the Derbyshire County Cricket club let it be known that they did indeed intend to form an football team under association rules and this time it made the front page of the Derby Daily Telegraph, it was all very unassuming and not met with the greatest of excitement.
season tickets would be on sale at 5 shillings and a number of matches of a high order were to be arranged for the start of the new season in September!
 
 
 

So let’s start right at the very beginning…….It was Wednesday the 7th May 1884 when the very first mention was leaked in the Derby Mercury, it was hidden away on page five that the Derbyshire County Cricket club were to form a football club under Association rules and so it began.

As I remember it was the HMRC who was petitioning to wind up the club in 1984 when Stuart Webb pulled off the the 59th minute of the 11th hour rescue with the Robert Maxwell takeover.
I also remember him saying 'Derby County will never find itself in this position ever again'
Of all the current problems I think that owing the HMRC money again as in 1984 depresses me most

I have just been on the HMRC Forum, and all they are taking about is what formation Wayne Rooney’s Derby County will play this year. A good number are going for 433 but personally I don’t think any of them have any idea whatsoever.

So to answer your original question @Carl Sagan no-one has a scooby what's going on with this.  

In all manner of threads there's mention of money owed to HMRC but I've not seen anything saying how much, when it became due, why it became due and what happens now. It seems as if everyone knows apart from me, but I thought I'd open a thread so some of you on the forum can explain to those of us who have been slow to catch on.
Thanks

In all manner of threads there's mention of money owed to HMRC but I've not seen anything saying how much, when it became due, why it became due and what happens now. It seems as if everyone knows apart from me, but I thought I'd open a thread so some of you on the forum can explain to those of us who have been slow to catch on.
Thanks

It's not been confirmed exactly what it is, but there was a Daily Mail article reporting a HMRC bill a while back:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9580807/Potential-Derby-County-buyers-WALKING-AWAY-discovering-debts-60MILLION.html
I don't know the accuracy of the figures - Derby respond by calling the overarching £60m quoted a "worst case scenario" figure - or whether the figures quoted are still the same now, but the response from Morris suggests that the money owed to HMRC relates to the club agreeing to defer PAYE taxes during the Covid period, and suggests Derby are far from unique in this regard. 
That doesn't make it clear how much is owed, when the money is owed, what the EFL's problem is (Have the club missed dates for deferred payments? Are the EFL just being petty hard-asses with their rules again? Both seem equally possible IMO), or anything like that, though. It might even be the case that that issue is now sorted and the current HMRC issue is something entirely different, but that's the best we've got to go off, as is.

Her Majesty should just say forget about it, we've got enough going on at the moment. After all, we do go way back.

3 here but I’m not bothered about them steal from the poor and give to the rich see you next Tuesdays.

I dont know either, that's 2 of us.
Not convinced the other 2 know either (Mel and Stephen)
 

In all manner of threads there's mention of money owed to HMRC but I've not seen anything saying how much, when it became due, why it became due and what happens now. It seems as if everyone knows apart from me, but I thought I'd open a thread so some of you on the forum can explain to those of us who have been slow to catch on.
Thanks

In all manner of threads there's mention of money owed to HMRC but I've not seen anything saying how much, when it became due, why it became due and what happens now. It seems as if everyone knows apart from me, but I thought I'd open a thread so some of you on the forum can explain to those of us who have been slow to catch on.
Thanks

Well, he's been filming in Derbyshire recently so it's practically his home county!