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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from angieram in No repeat offenders.   
    There's no way for any of us to prove it, but I'm pretty sure it would be nowhere near the 3-4 times per match on average presented there.
    I think that's the illusory truth effect coming into force tbh, the exaggeration has become truth.
    There's also a difference between the opposition failing to capitalise on it, and the defenders doing their jobs to recover the ball following a mistake - not every giveaway = a goalscoring opportunity. Every penalty is though.
    Fair points, but they do see the statistics, they are qualified coaches and they have access to high-end professional analytics.
    I'm not really a fan of it either, but you have to assume that the data is showing them something we're not seeing.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from duncanjwitham in No repeat offenders.   
    Most of them.
    How many other teams have been on the end of 7,8,9 such decisions by the same group of refs in the space of 10-12 games?
    If your answer is 'none, but the refs are targeting Derby ' the you're  barking up the wrong tree.
    I fully expect the issue to resolve itself in one or a  few month's time, at which point people will just say 'see, it wasn't our fault!" and pretend that there haven't been any changes at all.
     
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from duncanjwitham in No repeat offenders.   
    The number of 'crazy goals we've given away poncing around the back' over a whole season (and more) has already been eclipsed by the number of penalties given away and times our defence have been left one on one with an attacker on the breakaway 
    It's really odd that one is almost excused and the other vilified.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from ariotofmyown in No repeat offenders.   
    Most of them.
    How many other teams have been on the end of 7,8,9 such decisions by the same group of refs in the space of 10-12 games?
    If your answer is 'none, but the refs are targeting Derby ' the you're  barking up the wrong tree.
    I fully expect the issue to resolve itself in one or a  few month's time, at which point people will just say 'see, it wasn't our fault!" and pretend that there haven't been any changes at all.
     
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from Jubbs in Liam Rosenior   
    Good for 5-6 goals against you across a season.
    Whereas we've conceded nearly as many penalties under Warne as we've played games.
     
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    May Contain Nuts reacted to Mucker1884 in Cashin   
    Totally agree.
    This just makes us look mardy.
    They'll take week to look at it, then laugh us out of court.  The ref was spot on.
     
    Anyway... gotta dash... need to read the rest of this thread...
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    May Contain Nuts reacted to JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta in No repeat offenders.   
    The problem almost entirely coincides with Warne taking over. It can't just be that we have 11 braindead players in our team or that the ref is always wrong, it wasn't an issue under Rosenior. I can only really conclude that the way we currently set ourselves up and play the game invites more pressure on our box, or the shape of the defence invites opposition players to run in to certain areas, and those are the areas in which we are giving away penalties.
    The players have to shoulder some responsibility and make better decisions, but that also extends to the manager and the way we set up in my opinion.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from ck- in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from TigerTedd in No repeat offenders.   
    I'm not sure if he means that in defence of Warne?
    One part constantly failing would point to that part being faulty and in need of replacing.
    Multiple parts failing at random would suggest that the problem is systemic.
    Why are referees getting so many opportunities to award penalties in games involving us?
    The quality of referees is very poor, but if that was the main factor we'd see 15-20 penalties every round of matches, it wouldn't just be affecting us.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from RodleyRam in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from Comrade 86 in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from Crewton in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from OohMartWright in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from Black ('n' White) Sheep in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from ColonelBlimp in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from alanmarklewis in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from Jubbs in Passing the ball accurately and retaining possession   
    Nice stats, good to see we've been more clinical but that's sort of to be expected with McGoldrick being more available and Collins settling in.
    As was shows a few days ago though we've also faced weaker defences since the managerial change.
    Excluding Man City U21s because they've only really played 2 games of 'senior' football this season....
    312 total goals conceded by the 12 teams faced under Rosenior (average of 26 per team)
    281 total goals conceded by the 9 teams faced under Warne (average of 31.2 per team)
    In the league, the teams Rosenior faced (9) have conceded 169 goals (237 all comps), 160 without our contribution - 17.8 per team
    In the league, the teams Warne has faced (7) have conceded 183 goals (218 all comps), 172 without our contribution - 24.6 per team
    You'd be shocked if we hadn't managed to notch up a few more goals in recent matches tbf
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from Adslegend in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from lrm14 in No repeat offenders.   
    I'm not sure if he means that in defence of Warne?
    One part constantly failing would point to that part being faulty and in need of replacing.
    Multiple parts failing at random would suggest that the problem is systemic.
    Why are referees getting so many opportunities to award penalties in games involving us?
    The quality of referees is very poor, but if that was the main factor we'd see 15-20 penalties every round of matches, it wouldn't just be affecting us.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from gfs1ram in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from Miggins in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from SKRam in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from Nishfan in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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    May Contain Nuts got a reaction from Blondest Goat in Liverpool v Derby (A) Matchday Thread   
    Nice of them to put the predicted score right in the middle of the image.
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