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Ghost of Clough reacted to Tamworthram in DERBY COUNTY FANS FORUM: MARCH 2024
Good summary of the key points. Although I’ve only watched the video once, I would add the following from my recollection:
Government bill: Widespread support across the Championship except for the clubs with parachute payments (surprise, surprise).
Booing: As you say, he asked us to reserve any booing (if we feel it is necessary) until the game has finished. He also said the fans had every right to boo. I think he included himself as a target for such a reaction.
Connection with away support: I think he said this was partly due to being a more compact group (or words to that effect) at away games. He also said the away support is more boisterous - possibly due to a bit more alcohol being consumed 😀.
Adams: He said he was a Cardiff player and therefore more a case of unlikely than likely.
Squad: I must have missed the vibes as I didn’t pick up on the feeling that promotion this season is the assumption.
Cheering every kick and every header: I seem to recall that he was referring to when things get a bit nervous or we’re under a bit of pressure things get a bit quiet. The players get a boost when we cheer even the simplest things under these circumstances.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to richinspain in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.
Surely you can add another nought to those prices if they are prepared to move to Greece?
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Comrade 86 in Match Thread: vs Northampton Town (a)
Waghorn and Mendez-Laing starting the game in a 5212. Waghorn off in the 2nd half, with Washington and Blackett-Taylor seeing the game out in a 523. If we're a couple up, we could rest Mendez-Laing and play Sibley further forward.
Starting 11
Wildsmith
Nelson Forsyth Cashin
Ward Smith Hourihane Sibley
Adams
Waghorn Mendez-Laing
Finishers
Wildsmith
Nelson Forsyth Cashin
Wilson Thompson Adams Elder
Sibley Blackett-Taylor
Washington
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from DublinRam in DERBY COUNTY FANS FORUM: MARCH 2024
These are the main comments I picked up from Matt Hale and Jake Buxton.
Academy chances
Buxton - players haven't done enough in training to convince Warne to play them. However, he aknowledges some players need to be given the chance in the team to show they are good enoguh. He used Thompson as an example, as he wasn't a standout in the academy, but showed he was capable once given game time in the first team.
Hale - pointed out it's difficult when Warne's priority is promotion and the risk of dropping an untested player in potentially resulting in less points on the board. Harsh on those youngsters when we're 3-0 up in games and have unused subs.
Breakthrough players
Understandably, neither wanted
Hale - average age of a Premier League debut is 21. I disagree with his view that a debut at a younger age is a good achievement, espeically with us being a L1 club (and hoopefully Championship club soon)
Buxton - highlighted the young players we have in the U21 squad at the moment, with several 17 year old playing. However, Robinson and Fapetu and 19 and Weston are 20 (all should be looking at first team football either with us or on loan).
Development
Hale - Restructures our U18 and U21 setup at the start of the season, to ensure each individual player has their own session, reviewed regularly. Now in the Central League to play agaisnt older players and expereicne the importance of wins over performances and help transition to men's football. Pointed out that we need to teach them the dark arts (tactical fouls, etc)
Buxton - greater variety of games is important and gives them a different experience (passing football in PL2 and more direct in the Central League)
Hale - work with other sports to look at transferable skills (momentum was highlighted). Also work with other businesses. Applies to staff and players.
Hale - review suitability of loan (game time and suitability). May want to ask more money off the loaning club if they aren't playing as much as we like as they could be in our U21s instead. Ensure staff watch every game of players out on loan and offer support to all players (such as life skills for players who will be away from home for the first time)
On style of play
Buxton - Writing a playing phylosophy for the whole club which hasn't been fully implemented yet. He described it as "free flowing football" with a "high press". U21s are already aligned with the first team.
Hale - Added that they need to teach them when to press, when to drop off, knowing that we'll be more adaptable in the first team. Pointed out ball retention is important and correlated with league position, but also added winning the ball back is just as important.
Other comments
Hale - Derby's training ground is twice the size of Southampton's.
Hale - Vision for the academy is to be PL ready in terms of staff, players, facilities
Buxton - All staff sit with players to discuss if they will or won't be retained. If to be released, they're told early on in the season. Players will be offered trials prior to signing for the U21 squad.
Hale - a lot of scouts viewing all age groups to spot players and have a filtering process. Strong competition with other Cat 1 clubs, with Moor Farm "packed" every game to watch our games. Plans in place for reviewing contract offerings to 16/17 year olds to aid retenation. Opportunity and pathway to the first team is our USP as we can't offer the money PL clubs can.
Comments from Stephen Pearce and Paul Warne to follow...
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Ghost of Clough reacted to Foreveram in DERBY COUNTY FANS FORUM: MARCH 2024
Hale used the phrase “ Premier league ready “ several times, so hopefully that’s the aim not too far into the future.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from RoyMac5 in DERBY COUNTY FANS FORUM: MARCH 2024
These are the main comments I picked up from Matt Hale and Jake Buxton.
Academy chances
Buxton - players haven't done enough in training to convince Warne to play them. However, he aknowledges some players need to be given the chance in the team to show they are good enoguh. He used Thompson as an example, as he wasn't a standout in the academy, but showed he was capable once given game time in the first team.
Hale - pointed out it's difficult when Warne's priority is promotion and the risk of dropping an untested player in potentially resulting in less points on the board. Harsh on those youngsters when we're 3-0 up in games and have unused subs.
Breakthrough players
Understandably, neither wanted
Hale - average age of a Premier League debut is 21. I disagree with his view that a debut at a younger age is a good achievement, espeically with us being a L1 club (and hoopefully Championship club soon)
Buxton - highlighted the young players we have in the U21 squad at the moment, with several 17 year old playing. However, Robinson and Fapetu and 19 and Weston are 20 (all should be looking at first team football either with us or on loan).
Development
Hale - Restructures our U18 and U21 setup at the start of the season, to ensure each individual player has their own session, reviewed regularly. Now in the Central League to play agaisnt older players and expereicne the importance of wins over performances and help transition to men's football. Pointed out that we need to teach them the dark arts (tactical fouls, etc)
Buxton - greater variety of games is important and gives them a different experience (passing football in PL2 and more direct in the Central League)
Hale - work with other sports to look at transferable skills (momentum was highlighted). Also work with other businesses. Applies to staff and players.
Hale - review suitability of loan (game time and suitability). May want to ask more money off the loaning club if they aren't playing as much as we like as they could be in our U21s instead. Ensure staff watch every game of players out on loan and offer support to all players (such as life skills for players who will be away from home for the first time)
On style of play
Buxton - Writing a playing phylosophy for the whole club which hasn't been fully implemented yet. He described it as "free flowing football" with a "high press". U21s are already aligned with the first team.
Hale - Added that they need to teach them when to press, when to drop off, knowing that we'll be more adaptable in the first team. Pointed out ball retention is important and correlated with league position, but also added winning the ball back is just as important.
Other comments
Hale - Derby's training ground is twice the size of Southampton's.
Hale - Vision for the academy is to be PL ready in terms of staff, players, facilities
Buxton - All staff sit with players to discuss if they will or won't be retained. If to be released, they're told early on in the season. Players will be offered trials prior to signing for the U21 squad.
Hale - a lot of scouts viewing all age groups to spot players and have a filtering process. Strong competition with other Cat 1 clubs, with Moor Farm "packed" every game to watch our games. Plans in place for reviewing contract offerings to 16/17 year olds to aid retenation. Opportunity and pathway to the first team is our USP as we can't offer the money PL clubs can.
Comments from Stephen Pearce and Paul Warne to follow...
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Crewton in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.
Our penalty was a result of being judged to have failed 3 separate P&S periods.
£7.8m in the 3 years to 2017
£11.7m in the 3 years to 2019
£2m in the 4 years to 2021
Based on the points structure vs excess loss figures set in an earlier case (was it Birmingham?), amd the fact points should be deducted ted in the following season, we would have had 6 points deducted in 17/18, 12 in 19/20, and 3 points in 21/22.
As set out in the Reading and Sheff Weds cases, the value of points deductions was halved - so 3, 6 and 1 (or 2) points respectively. The result of which being:
17/18 - Derby dropping to 8th, with Preston taking our place in the Playoffs
19/20 - dropping from 10th place to 13th
21/22 - having a maximum of 2 points instead of 9 deducted due to P&S, we would have finished 21st, with Reading finishing in the bottom 3 instead. That's even with the administration points.
Both Wycombe and Boro's claims were were wrongful for the point you raise. The season finished before the relevant reporting periods had finished. Wycombe's main claim was from believing the EFL should have given us the full 9 point deduction in 20/21 despite our battle with the EFL not being concluded until a few months later.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from uttoxram75 in Serial Whingers Notts Forest playtime, which we simply cannot accept.
Our penalty was a result of being judged to have failed 3 separate P&S periods.
£7.8m in the 3 years to 2017
£11.7m in the 3 years to 2019
£2m in the 4 years to 2021
Based on the points structure vs excess loss figures set in an earlier case (was it Birmingham?), amd the fact points should be deducted ted in the following season, we would have had 6 points deducted in 17/18, 12 in 19/20, and 3 points in 21/22.
As set out in the Reading and Sheff Weds cases, the value of points deductions was halved - so 3, 6 and 1 (or 2) points respectively. The result of which being:
17/18 - Derby dropping to 8th, with Preston taking our place in the Playoffs
19/20 - dropping from 10th place to 13th
21/22 - having a maximum of 2 points instead of 9 deducted due to P&S, we would have finished 21st, with Reading finishing in the bottom 3 instead. That's even with the administration points.
Both Wycombe and Boro's claims were were wrongful for the point you raise. The season finished before the relevant reporting periods had finished. Wycombe's main claim was from believing the EFL should have given us the full 9 point deduction in 20/21 despite our battle with the EFL not being concluded until a few months later.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to angieram in DERBY COUNTY FANS FORUM: MARCH 2024
At least I'm one of the few attendees without a bald patch!
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Youth international call ups
https://twitter.com/jack1hompson/status/1770502220334674292?t=ijW8X28Qs4Ac1oVhZ-dGxQ&s=19
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from angieram in Youth international call ups
https://twitter.com/jack1hompson/status/1770502220334674292?t=ijW8X28Qs4Ac1oVhZ-dGxQ&s=19
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Premier ram in The run-in: some analysis
We play Wycombe on the back of games against Portsmouth, Blackpool, and Peterboroguh (Pizza Cup Final). You'd expect them to be a bit tired after than run, especially if the Peterborough game goes to extra time.
We will then have Leyton Orient, Cambridge and Carlisle, you'd expect all of them to have nothing to play for by then.
I think if we're top 2 after the Portsmouth game, we'll win automatic promotion.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from hintonsboots in We can't finish lower than...
5 wins from our final 7 will guarentee top 2 in my opinion. That would put us on 93 points, and means the teams behind us could only get away with drawing 1 game and winning the rest.
4 wins from our final 7 would be 90 points and would be touch and go. With each side only being able to lose 1 and draw 1.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to Srg in Academy thread 23/24
Cruz Allen has signed his first professional contract.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to TomTom92 in DERBY COUNTY FANS FORUM: MARCH 2024
Finding the constant moaning about Pearce quite tiresome to be honest.
Think people need to move on or at the very least adopt the ‘if you haven’t got anything nice to say don’t say it all’ approach.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Topram in DERBY COUNTY FANS FORUM: MARCH 2024
It's only extensions BEFORE the end of the season. We'll see a fee extended during the summer.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to FlyBritishMidland in DERBY COUNTY FANS FORUM: MARCH 2024
Could be were not talking to players about new contracts now because we don’t want it to be a distraction. And changes are inevitable whichever division we’re in due to the number of players out of contract, age profile, etc. And they probably know that anyway.
Either way, I’d wait and watch it back later in the week. It’s impossible to get the context of the discussion in a tweet.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Caerphilly Ram in DERBY COUNTY FANS FORUM: MARCH 2024
It's only extensions BEFORE the end of the season. We'll see a fee extended during the summer.
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Ghost of Clough reacted to Jubbs in Summer transfer suggestion thread
Anybody know if there's any players from Scotland available...
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Ghost of Clough reacted to G STAR RAM in Match Thread: vs Bolton Wanderers (H)
I imagine it was like one of them goals where the fans are waiting for a VAR decision.
He punched all of the data into his luck spreadsheet and then had to wait for the results.
Imagine there were absolute scenes when the computer advised that the xG was less than 1 and if the header had taken place against an average opponent on a neutral ground on a windy day it would not have gone in.
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Ghost of Clough got a reaction from Mimester in Match Thread: vs Northampton Town (a)
Wildsmith
Nelson Forsyth Cashin
Ward Smith Thompson Sibley
Adams
Mendez-Laing Waghorn
Subs: Evans, Bradley, Wilson, Elder, Fornah, Hourihane, Blackett-Taylor