curb

19 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

He’s playing games. Fair enough tho’

What do mean ‘he’s playing games’?

10 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

 an unsurprising sign of Curtis’ loyalty, if that’s what it’s about. But LR is untried in this role and if he does not succeed the price of terminating a long contract could cause us major issues under the EFL business plan.  

did wonder btw whether Curtis might want to become player/captain/assistant coach 

He said on TS yesterday that he wouldn’t rule it out, but he’s more interested in a media career. 

1 hour ago, DTOOOTNMCNAC said:

He sounds completely deranged. 

15 posts since Friday night on the One T**t in Bristol forum.

Every one of them on the Derby County thread ???

Leave it up and use it as an example to all those owners who think they can spend their way to the Premier League - Lest We Forget and all that

1 hour ago, I am Ram said:

He doesn't get much support on his own forum, that's why he has gone to ltlf, once the forest lot are bored, he will head over to leeds. He is desperate for an audience i guess.I hope he moves on like Derby have, it's not healthy.

He tried to ingratiate himself with Stoke fans on Oatcake a few weeks ago but they shooed him off.

8 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said:

Don't think so:

https://www.bcfc.co.uk/news/8-the-ashton-gate-eight-40th-anniversary/

Blimey, something interesting actually happened in the dullest football city on the planet.

I never realised

Just a word for mr ploppypants:

We survived to fight another day. 
You might be next. 
And you might not be so lucky. 
 

Sweet dreams sunshine. 

5 minutes ago, I DONT MIND said:

Chuffing hell i didn't expect the spanish inquisition

Our two chief weapons are fear and surprise….surprise and fear….and a ruthless efficiency

7 minutes ago, DerbyRevolution said:

Going for a walk to the stadium to see if there's any movement

I’ve just driven past, it’s still in the same spot. 

When this goes through we should feel ourselves very very lucky, this has been building in football for years, and as everyone has been telling us, a big club has to go under before anything changes.
Thanks to Mr. Clowes it won’t be us, but there are probably 10 - 15 clubs who are in far more debt than their club is worth. The next one could be the one to go pop.

7 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said:

"What they can afford to lose" is difficult to establish remember at one point we all under the illusion that CK had £20+ million to buy our club.

It would be self regulating, if debts had to be covered by personal guarantees, then an owner would be personally liable, and they wouldn’t be able to walk away and leave the club with the debts. 

I’m not sure how it could be enforced, but it would stop this from happening again and again.

17 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Just because a club doesn't run at a profit doesn't automatically result in additional debt. An owner can inject equity into the company, resulting in £0 of debt.

Owners should be able to invest as much as they want to in a club, but if there was some way of banning them from racking up debt, but investing it as equity, then that would solve a lot of football’s problems in a stroke. No debt allowed, owners would only invest what they can afford to lose.

2 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said:

I think the reason a good chunk of supporters think/thought that Mike Ashley would of been the “best” choice was simply two fold:

1) Most amount of money (per reports)

2) He’s owned another football club that has played at a higher level than we have 

Whether or not you think he did a good job of No.2 is up for debate, but I think it’s those two factors that earn him a lot of support.

Clowes, and to an extent Appleby, are unknowns and should therefore be regarded with a healthy level of scepticism, as well as optimism, in my opinion. 

Sorry, I have to take issue with your point no.2, I can’t remember Newcastle ever playing in a European Cup Semi Final ?

1 minute ago, Nuwtfly said:

God forbid anybody dare ask how much someone trying to buy Derby County has. 

Would you have a problem with me asking this question if he was called Erik Alonso? 

At this point in the process, yes. If he’s got enough to save us from the imminent disaster that is liquidation, then anything else is a bonus. How would you feel if you went into Curry’s to buy a telly and they asked to see your bank account to make sure you can afford to fund Sky TV and Netflix for the next ten years?

47 minutes ago, Nuwtfly said:

Apologies if this has been stated before…

Does anyone know roughly how much Clowes / the specific group that are attempting to buy the club are worth? How much money they have in comparison to say Mel Morris / Mike Ashley?

Its fairytale stuff for a fan and local guy to buy your club (heard that somewhere before) but can he actually afford this?

And by afford I mean pay off debts / buy an entire new squad / a new coaching team / new recruitment department / all the other never ending bills that come with owning a money guzzling football club in 2022?

Its all well and good saying: it doesn’t matter how much he has as long as he runs us properly, but that is a very unrealistic way of looking at this. 

Can’t you just be grateful that we’ve got a club to support, and worry about the Champions League push when we’ve stabilised a bit? Hmm?

27 minutes ago, cosmic said:

What's the debate here now we're almost saved? The ineptitude of Quantuma and the EFL, as well as the Sports Minister for not intervening? Seems too little too late, now.

It would be good once we are out of it, to keep the pressure on the EFL and make them pay for their incompetence. 

13 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Just like all the dealings with Morris every fan clearly knew he was paying these wages and are culpable and we must be punished.  We really must have a points deduction or double relegation.  Boooo.  take points of them, cheats  booooo.

We were all cheering about the wages being paid so it’s obviously our fault.

40 minutes ago, Crewton said:

"bUt WhAtAbOuT tHe OtHeR £57m?!?" - Spokesman for OTIB

They’ll be that gutted we’ve been saved, what they going to talk about now?

It’s not like anything interesting ever happens at Bristol City.

9 hours ago, Brailsford Ram said:

If you'd remembered or understood that in the first place, I wouldn't have had to point it out to you then ?

I don’t think anyone can say that having a single owner works or a consortium works, there’s no easy formula for a club to use to get success. All our (relative) success has come from single ownerships, although it can also be argued that after each spell of success it was the single ownership that made it short lived. The last time Appleby was in charge I thought we struggled for a long time because of the way the consortium was set up, in that investment had to be drip fed in because no one investor could put in more than the others! Although GSE did leave the club in a much better state than when they took over, and it was incredibly bad luck that we don’t make it to the Prem at the end of their spell in charge.

All I was saying was that I couldn’t see how it would work with technically two owners, although if DC wants to disappear back into the background and be one of GSW’s main investors then I guess that would make sense.

Im not in any way criticising, if DC pulls off the ownership and allows us to start over I will be eternally grateful, it’s going to be an interesting few months, we can only hope for the best, and I won’t be pre-judging whatever ownership model we end up with, but take it on its own merit.

23 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said:

Ownership or partnership? The League of Gentlemen was a partnership and it wasn't very complicated. It rescued us very successfully from the Three Amigos, two of whom went to prison together with their solicitor and financial director ?

Thanks for the history lesson, but I’m old enough to remember.

19 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said:

If he has investors at hand to bring in, it saves David Clowes going to look for them. If you read my earlier posts you will see I believe that Appleby (and Sam Rush) have been assisting DC's takeover of the club. I hope that does not add another layer of complication for you. If it does, I simply have to take a step back because I can't explain it any clearer. If so, I'm sorry about that.

I didn’t say it makes it more complicated for me, I said it adds an extra layer of complication (to the ownership).

4 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said:

He was the front man for GSE and chairman of the club while they were the owners. He employed Tom Glick and then Sam Rush. They carried out his directions. GSE fronted a consortium of investors. Appleby still carries out that function for General Sports Worldwide as the group is now known. If David Clowes is seeking a consortium to support him in him taking over the club do you not think that he might wish to make use of Appleby's capabilities?

I do.

I don’t ?

(see the point, wouldn’t Clowes just employ a Glick or Rush himself, and why would Appleby bring his investors in if he’s not the owner?

To me it just adds another layer of complication)

5 minutes ago, Brailsford Ram said:

So you think that DC is not amenable to working with Andy Appleby?

What would Appleby’s role be if not owner?

He was never a CEO himself, he had Glick then Rush to do all the day to day stuff.

So, while Mike Ashley was swinging his bat around on the sidelines, David Clowes has padded up, gone out to the crease and smashed a six off the first ball. 

8 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Think yourself lucky you didn't pay for that info! ?

It’s not luck, it’s common sense.