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I always thought it might be to do with Barcelona 👍
Tell me Curtains, why we can't beat any decent teams in the league we are in? We have a good squad; we did last season too - although I accept defensive injuries were an issue. Warne has I understand only been able to get us one win against a top ten team in a league game in close to a year. I can't see us getting a win vs Peterboro or Bolton either in the next two games (but will be delighted if we do). He really doesn't appear capable of getting a tune out of the players at his disposal, mainly because he plays them in a system that doesn't suit their abilities. As I said, perhaps the two new signings will be the game changer. Hope so.
 

Absolutely not, there is no need to. What I take into account is the dross that the manager has us playing. The continual giving the ball away through us lumping it up to the front. Playing people in positions that they are unsuited to etc. etc. 

Absolutely not, there is no need to. What I take into account is the dross that the manager has us playing. The continual giving the ball away through us lumping it up to the front. Playing people in positions that they are unsuited to etc. etc. 

It is Warne's building that causes me concern. I want to be entertained and controlling games, not scraping a win and hanging on against teams such as Fleetwood. We do not seem to be building for the future. I don't see anything in this managers actions to make me believe that he is capable of managing a team like Derby, or that he has any sort of coherent strategy. 

Oh so me wanting him gone immediately means I'm not a true Derby fan? What does collecting money have to do with anything? I've had a season ticket for over 20 years. Exactly how much money do I need to raise in a bucket before I'm allowed to say we've been awful under him? Give over.

They might have done had DC given Rosenior a fair crack at it.

He didn’t like that photo, he thought it made him look like a bully. I loved it! 😄

He didn’t like that photo, he thought it made him look like a bully. I loved it! 😄

He didn’t like that photo, he thought it made him look like a bully. I loved it! 😄

Its the way we’re playing, the one dimensional tactics that make us look a shambles when they don’t work, the boring ugly style of football we’re having to endure, the hammering of square pegs into round holes Warne does week after week to try and make his rubbish system work and the total lack of a plan B when it doesn’t. These are the reasons some of us see absolutely nothing positive in any of the games. 

1Wildsmith  6
35Nelson  6
5Bradley  6
34Rooney  6
14Washington  6
6Cashin  6
12Smith  7
23Waghorn  6
4Hourihane  7
3Forsyth  7
11Méndez-Laing  7
20Elder  6
9Collins  6
16Thompson  8
17Sibley. 6
I don’t think that the referees in League 1 have been as bad as some say. This fellow was poor though. 
 
we did well until the manager started tinkering about. My humble opinion is that he us dragging us down as a team providing entertainment. 
 
hey ho! Nothing is forever. 😊

Had a long but good day yesterday, haven’t seen the highlights yet but my summary of the game based on what I saw and my own conclusions is as follows. 
Started the game really well, pace and intent from the kick off. I thought the first Waghorn incident was a pen and wonder if the ref panicked with it being so early in the game.
It looked to be a back 4 from where I was sat in the East stand @rammieib  with them lined up in a 4 and NML playing high on the right, which is why I posted yesterday to try and clarify the shape for other forum members….however there were times when NML dropped in as a rwb and it became a back 5 in defence, seemingly a sort of fluid 4/5 in defence. Then of course the clear change to 3/5 at the back late on.
The defence still looked nervy at times but the 4 worked well for the most part, Rooney was calm and assured considering his limited minutes before yesterday. Nelson and Cashin looked more comfortable as a 2. Fozzy was his typical composed presence, reading the game well and helping that calmness. Elder and Bradley seemed keen to impress when they came on which made for some nervy moments, one example that sticks out was when Elder went to head a lofted pass forward which he was never getting and ended up jumping through two of their players. BUT the defence and Wildsmith did all dig in and they got the clean sheet, even if it wasn’t pretty at times.
Waghorn and Washington showed what they can offer as a forward pairing with running and movement aplenty. Waghorn’s control of Wash’s shot to then turn and finish shows his quality. That’s 2 goals already for him, showing that he will indeed score at this level. Both tired as the game went on with Collins and Sibley putting an effort in when they came on but not quite having the same impact. I think that’s probably a combination of lack of mins for Sibley, and the fact we’d retreated more as the game went on. 

Thompson was everywhere, which I was really pleased with, I’ve said in pre season I thought he’d offer something to this side and think he took his chance with both hands. Apart from the silly booking it was a good all energy performance. Nipping in to win second balls and carry it forward, running and harrying their players, driving forward, and not shirking the physical battle as he was in a constant grind with their 6.  
NML, Smith and Hourihane put in plenty of effort and contributed to lots of nearly moments. NML was dangerous on the right, he first couple of runs nearly led to chances, if we can nail the final ball with him in those positions he’ll be back to scoring and assisting like he was last season. Smith and Hourihane both looked so slow, the intent and effort there to get across the ground but the legs not quite carrying them. A more mobile presence in there with Hourihane changes the side quite quickly I think, with Smith then an option to come on and help see out games/rotate. We need that signing. I think that contributes to our lack of control in games, the midfield is too immobile and gets bypassed at times, easier to see it in person than on ramstv, not slating their effort, just think it’s clear we need more legs in there, not dynamic enough.
In summary, it was a slightly better performance at times on the way to a much needed result, still some of the same worries remain. I think the change to 5 at the back late on was partly due to circumstances (not many options on the bench and wanting to grind out the win) but I’d have much preferred Warne to give the likes of Bardell and Robinson the chance. Robinson could have added some energy to a tired midfield and Bardell a more natural option at rb/rwb than Nelson who definitely got caught tucking in too Central a couple of times. 
However, a day in Derby in the sunshine, a rat burger outside the ground, quality time with my dad, sister and uncle, 3 points and a clean sheet, pretty happy day altogether. 

 
EDIT - forgot to add, the officials were poor. The linesman on this near side looked to take his cue from the ref every time, the NML booking (not seen a replay so could be mistaken) didn’t look like a foul, their bloke span away from NML and hit the deck but the linesman said nothing to the ref despite his clear view. They gave a foul for NML after a great run in which their lb had tried to violently undress the lad the whole way, however the “foul” in truth looked more like NML took out the lb, maybe it was for what had gone before? They just seemed soft and inconsistent throughout, for both sides. 

I’d get someone to clean all of the seats inside the stadium - mine was filthy when I went on Tuesday. Obviously not been touched since last season. 

1Wildsmith 6
35Nelson 5
5Bradley 5
14Washington 6
6Cashin 5
23Ward 5
2Wilson 6
12Smith 6
23Waghorn 7
8Bird 6
4Hourihane 5
3Forsyth 6
11Méndez-Laing 6
20Elder 5
9Collins 5
16Thompson 7
it is difficult to mark the players down as much as that performance deserves. To me, it is 100% down to our inept manager. The players don’t look happy with it, and at times confused about what they should be doing or where they should be. 
What does Warne think can be achieved by 3 or 4 passes then lump it to the oppositions defenders.
We have the players who can make an impact, but not the strategy. Let’s be radical and try passing to each other looking after that expensive ball. 
 

I don’t get how anyone has watched that tonight and decided Washington and Waghorn are the problem?!
It’s the midfield and the tactics….or the execution of them, there’s no presence or control in the middle of the park, we’re not retaining the ball, we didn’t create much from open play. That doesn’t sit at Washington and Waghorn’s door, it’s down to Warne for the tactics and Hourihane/Smith/Bird/NML/Wilson/Elder/Nelson/Bradley etc for the lack of composure, creativity and control.

Because players wanted to play for Rosenior. They don’t want to play for Warne. It’s as simple as that.

People think smoking rhem at football matches is okay.
Not if you're standing anywhere near them, it's not! 

I am pretty sure Warne is an alright kind of a guy. I remain far from convinced he is actually a good football coach. I did listen to him this morning (and his post match reflections) and he seemed a lot less chippy than he came over last season. Personally I think that an improvement.

Now that was a sad day. 

Now that was a sad day. 

1Wildsmith 6
35Nelson 6
5Bradley 6
6Cashin 5
23Ward 6
2Wilson 6
12Smith 6
8Bird 🦅 7
4Hourihane 7
Waghorn 6
3Forsyth 6
Elder 6
9Collins 8
16Thompson 6
11Méndez-Laing 7
Washington 6

Burton were rubbish. Like seriously dreadfully rubbish.
It wasn’t a game to write home about for us either, I think the performance as a whole still lacked a lot. But we got a lot it things we “needed” and the 3 points are very, very welcome. A clean sheet and goals for Collins & Washington are important going forward.

Should we be worried based on your assessment of them that they were the stronger side in the first half? 😂

Turns out, the actual words are...
They docked us 21 points,
But we don't give a F***,
'Cos we are Derby County,
In League One we'll be stuck!
 
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Collins     
 NML                 Waghorn             Ward
                      Smith      Bird
Elder         Cashin      Forsyth       Nelson
                        Wildsmith
Keep it tight, with the back 4 not joining the attack in open play