DiggerB Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Usual story. Bright first 10 minutes with nothing to show for it, Opposition slowly get into the game and we revert to a low block, allowing the opposition easy ball retention. We then start trying too hard and get loose. Can’t keep doing it at this level. Mimester, JPRamFan, Millenniumram and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, DiggerB said: Usual story. Bright first 10 minutes with nothing to show for it, Opposition slowly get into the game and we revert to a low block, allowing the opposition easy ball retention. We then start trying too hard and get loose. Can’t keep doing it at this level. Very similar trajectory to all our away games this season apart from Blackburn. Doesn’t look like we can compete at this level away from home with these tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 5 minutes ago, Barney1991 said: Don’t think passing is high up on the training schedule. At least we are running a lot Watch the football instead of having a guess about how you think a Warne team looks We've been quite accurate and cutting with our pass selection so far this season and it has netted us some good goals Kathcairns, Mick Brolly, ariotofmyown and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Midfield surrendered. Need an extra body in there. Oldben 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 3 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: It’s not the goal, it’s the build up. As has been the biggest problem this season, and Warnes reign as a whole, we are giving the ball away poorly far too often. In the Championship, any team that does that gets relegated, you’re always going to be punished - we will be next unless something drastically improves in that regard. True ! Plus we allow teams to walze through our midfield far too easily…. It’s been an issue for quite some time but I can’t figure out why … just seems so easy for the opposition….the way we are set up with the players at our disposal??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeTownRams Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Just now, Anag Ram said: Midfield surrendered. Need an extra body in there. Far too lightweight… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramfan1958 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 No proper centre forward who can hold the ball up It keeps coming back at us . Hector was the best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggerB Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Been so organised and hardworking in defence but failed to look after the ball a few too many times and got punished. I don’t think they’re massively better than we are, but need to tweak things and use the ball better. Jackson for Harness maybe to give Yates some support? Said at Blackburn, Watford and Sheff U away and Boro and Norwich at home, yet has only yielded 3pts. Edited October 1 by DiggerB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinder Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 We can definitely get something from this. I’d get NML or Jackson on for Chirewa at half time. Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 2 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: It’s not the goal, it’s the build up. As has been the biggest problem this season, and Warnes reign as a whole, we are giving the ball away poorly far too often. In the Championship, any team that does that gets relegated, you’re always going to be punished - we will be next unless something drastically improves in that regard. Yes we need to look after the ball better, but it’s not a definite precursor to relegation, especially when you consider we’ve already picked up more points than 9 other sides and have a further 38.5 games to play. I think it’s best not to get too down or too high regards the rest of the season after only 8 games, we’ve shown we can compete at this level even if we’re lacking the depth and quality of some sides. FlyBritishMidland, Eatonram, Miggins and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuffolkRam Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Watching on sky, their half time statistics say Sunderland won 6 tackles and we won 2. Must have been more than 8 successful tackles in that half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Just now, Ramfan1958 said: No proper centre forward who can hold the ball up It keeps coming back at us . The Sunderland announcer was talking about John O'Hare at half-time, maybe we'll bring him on? TomG, Hector was the best and Hoppo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood P Dowd Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Derby 75% passing accuracy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DE56Ram Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, Ramfan1958 said: No proper centre forward who can hold the ball up It keeps coming back at us . We’re too deep it’s everyone they’ll get a rollicking for it at ht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 minute ago, CapeTownRams said: True ! Plus we allow teams to walze through our midfield far too easily…. It’s been an issue for quite some time but I can’t figure out why … just seems so easy for the opposition….the way we are set up with the players at our disposal??? Think that issue is more to do with the absence of Ozoh to be fair. We don’t really have anyone else who can step in and do that defensive midfield role properly - you’re playing players like Adam’s and Goidmijn out of position. The long term issue is our lack of care in possession. I’ve been saying it for months but it never seems to improve DiggerB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 3 minutes ago, Tombo said: Watch the football instead of having a guess about how you think a Warne team looks We've been quite accurate and cutting with our pass selection so far this season and it has netted us some good goals And in all away games we’ve surrendered possession, can’t string a pass or keep the ball and even in the home games we’ve average less than 40% possession. We have in parts played well but for 10 minutes here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 10 minutes ago, Oldben said: will jobe bellingham, emulate his older brother jude bellingham? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) Osborn hasn't been an outlet at all. Wilson pick of the bunch so far. Harness and Kenzo not had much ball and Adams has been by-passed. Pinned back so we either kick it long or need 4 or 5 passes to even get out our half and Zetterstrom's kicking isn't accurate either. Not any gulf but Sunderland the better team and we have had plenty of corners/dead balls and not looked dangerous. Edited October 1 by Chester40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavesaRam Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 We have been quite close to Sunderland in this half apart from the wasteful passing in midfield. Although we are playing a much better level of football this season, but it still seems midfield gets attention in training if there’s still some time at the end of the session. But to be more or less holding our own against a form team is encouraging. Caerphilly Ram and HorsforthRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 2 minutes ago, DiggerB said: Said away at Blackburn, Watford and Sheff U away and Boro and Norwich at home, yet has only yielded 3pts. And it’s still early in the season. We’re better off at this stage than a number of other sides with plenty of football still to play, against teams we will have every chance of beating. Plus, tonight isn’t over yet 😁 Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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