Be honest. Do you dislike old people?

[sage]

4 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Dickie looked in very good shape and humour at Scarborough the other day. I just said hello to him, but I was on my way for a slash.

With your clothes peg?

[Eddie]

8 minutes ago, sage said:

With your clothes peg?

We old uns need a bit of help to curtail the flow occasionally.

[Henrycav81]

Old people are great I used to love grab a granny night on a Wednesday at the coconut 

[Ram-Alf]

8 hours ago, Eddie said:

Dickie looked in very good shape and humour at Scarborough the other day. I just said hello to him, but I was on my way for a slash.

The Dickie Bird statue in Barnsley is/was a place where the Ladies out on the lash would leave their underwear on his finger, I heard some tried to even sit on his finger and have their picture taken...not sure if any were successful 😁

 

Edited September 11, 2023 by The Last Post

[Anag Ram]

2 hours ago, The Last Post said:

The Dickie Bird statue in Barnsley is/was a place where the Ladies out on the lash would leave their underwear on his finger, I heard some tried to even sit on his finger and have their picture taken...not sure if any were successful 😁

 

Out stumped.

[Marriot Ram99]

On 09/09/2023 at 12:18, Normanton Lad said:

I don't know anyone my age who has tattoos. It is a young thing. There are many obese old people but there are far more young obese people today than when I was young. Maybe this is judgemental but I don't like looking at obese people or tattooed people and when these things are combined I find it totally revolting. Perhaps that observation makes me a bad person, but I am being honest.

 

There are not old obese people because they are mostly already dead as bad as that sounds. My Grandad is similar every time he drives through Allenton he says about how terrible it is that people are so fat and he also doesn't like tattoos. He is 77.

It is bad that they are so many fat people in deprived areas but it's not right to say stuff like it's disgusting and they can barely walk.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Marriot Ram99

[Normanton Lad]

1 hour ago, Marriot Ram99 said:

There are not old obese people because they are mostly already dead as bad as that sounds. My Grandad is similar every time he drives through Allenton he says about how terrible it is that people are so fat and he also doesn't like tattoos. He is 77.

It is bad that they are so many fat people in deprived areas but it's not right to say stuff like it's disgusting and they can barely walk.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying the old obese people are already dead. Perhaps their brains are dead. They are so brainwashed that they will believe anything they read in the papers or see on the tv. It is nearly all propaganda and nonsense. 

They've also been tricked into eating so much rubbish that they are killing themselves with bad food.

Most people don't walk much nowadays. Wherever you live in Derby you are never more than an hour's walk from the centre. I used to walk three miles a day to work and back again. If it was raining I might jump on a bus for part of the journey. As for taxis, well I couldn't understand why people would waste money on them. I never took one. Perhaps if you are a big shot and your time is very important then I could understand avoiding an extra hour or so walking. But then you are missing out on the exercise.

I walk about 10 miles a day and I feel the same now as when I was 21.  I haven't got an ache or pain anywhere in my body. Some think running is a good exercise but from what I seen it is not as good as for your health as walking. Running will cause injuries, but moderate walking is safe. I say moderate because walking very long journeys can damage your health. One of my neighbours used to go on regular 20 mile walks and he ended up with plantar fasciitis.

Look at this video showing London in 1950. I only saw one overweight person in the whole film and today he would just be called stocky. At my school there were no fat children. A lot of this was down to walking and exercise. Our diet was not good. For example, we ate a lot of sweets, but the overall amount of food was far less than most people eat today.

London 1950

Look at how much more dignified the woman look in their dresses compared to the revealing rags they wear today.

[ariotofmyown]

On 09/09/2023 at 13:42, Normanton Lad said:

Nearly all of it. The only legacy media I look at is an online paper which I glance at to find out what lies they are saying today.  I don't watch TV or listen to radio stations. I have not listened to any pop music since the Beatles. I only listen to classic music and a bit of folk or jazz. The other day someone asked me what I thought of Adele and I said I have never heard any of her music and all I know about her comes from a photo of a fat girl I saw in an online newspaper.

Whilst I chuckled in agreement at your Beatles barb, you really are missing out on a huge amazing catalouge of music there. 

Some of your comments on this thread read like (or perhaps are) satire.  You are displaying some of the attitudes people do dislike old people for. Folk and Jazz became well known when you were a lad, hence you are prepared to abide these styles. This just feels like nostalgia on your part, rather than a critical appreciation of different genres. There will be people from every decade who says everything later than "their decade" is rubbish. Don't be one of those people.

I wish all you old people hadn't allowed proper food to be replaced by sugar fuelled junk food. Then there wouldn't so much obesity. 

 

[Comrade 86]

On 09/09/2023 at 11:03, Normanton Lad said:

I often wonder if the dislike of old people is due to their decrepitude or their views.

In your case, I'd imagine it'd be your views. 

 

[Scott129]

Odd topic - I wouldn't say that I hate old people because they're old.

The only thing that grates on me is when they involve themselves in discussions about the housing market. They don't seem to be able to grasp that it's considerably harder to buy a house now than it was for them X years ago, and instead blame young people's inability to buy a home on their spending habits (Netflix, Starbucks, tattoos, etc.)

It always ends up in a competition of sorts - 'oh, well it was difficult for me too back in the day - I had to work overtime and cut back on spending, blah blah." Yeah, thanks Grandma, but that wouldn't make the slightest difference today.

Rant over haha.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Scott129

[Normanton Lad]

6 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

Whilst I chuckled in agreement at your Beatles barb, you really are missing out on a huge amazing catalouge of music there. 

Some of your comments on this thread read like (or perhaps are) satire.  You are displaying some of the attitudes people do dislike old people for. Folk and Jazz became well known when you were a lad, hence you are prepared to abide these styles. This just feels like nostalgia on your part, rather than a critical appreciation of different genres. There will be people from every decade who says everything later than "their decade" is rubbish. Don't be one of those people.

I wish all you old people hadn't allowed proper food to be replaced by sugar fuelled junk food. Then there wouldn't so much obesity. 

 

I don't know if old people had much say about sugar in food. Their views have been ignored on much bigger issues.

I think musical taste is determined when you are young. If you've been brought up on a diet of loud electric guitar you are never going to be satisfied with something like lute music. Most people stick to what they like. I know very few people would enjoy the music I like but that doesn't bother me.

I like to listen to music without any distractions. For me it is not something I have on in the background. It makes me happy. However, it could be that music from a different musical genre might make me even happier. But what if the music from a different genre damages my hearing and stops me enjoying the music I like now. There is so much music in my own genre that I haven't even listened to yet that I haven't got time to explore other genres.

If you are content why change? Perhaps the woman next door could give me more pleasure than my wife, but why would I risk changing things and ruining what I have? I like plain food like porridge. I've never eaten Chinese food. Perhaps spicy food would give me more pleasure than my plain fare but it might also cause digestive problems or put me off my wife's cooking. Who knows what could happen.

Many of the bad things in this world (drugs, porn, etc) are caused by people looking for new sources of excitement. Be content with what you have. You don't need all the extra stuff.

 

[ariotofmyown]

4 hours ago, Scott129 said:

Odd topic - I wouldn't say that I hate old people because they're old.

The only thing that grates on me is when they involve themselves in discussions about the housing market. They don't seem to be able to grasp that it's considerably harder to buy a house now than it was for them X years ago, and instead blame young people's inability to buy a home on their spending habits (Netflix, Starbucks, tattoos, etc.)

It always ends up in a competition of sorts - 'oh, well it was difficult for me too back in the day - I had to work overtime and cut back on spending, blah blah." Yeah, thanks Grandma, but that wouldn't make the slightest difference today.

Rant over haha.

Well I remember when interest rates were 15% blah blah blah.

Didn't your family home cost you twice your salary though? With one working parent. And it's now worth 10x what you paid for it.

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[Henrycav81]

14 minutes ago, Normanton Lad said:

I don't know if old people had much say about sugar in food. Their views have been ignored on much bigger issues.

I think musical taste is determined when you are young. If you've been brought up on a diet of loud electric guitar you are never going to be satisfied with something like lute music. Most people stick to what they like. I know very few people would enjoy the music I like but that doesn't bother me.

I like to listen to music without any distractions. For me it is not something I have on in the background. It makes me happy. However, it could be that music from a different musical genre might make me even happier. But what if the music from a different genre damages my hearing and stops me enjoying the music I like now. There is so much music in my own genre that I haven't even listened to yet that I haven't got time to explore other genres.

If you are content why change? Perhaps the woman next door could give me more pleasure than my wife, but why would I risk changing things and ruining what I have? I like plain food like porridge. I've never eaten Chinese food. Perhaps spicy food would give me more pleasure than my plain fare but it might also cause digestive problems or put me off my wife's cooking. Who knows what could happen.

Many of the bad things in this world (drugs, porn, etc) are caused by people looking for new sources of excitement. Be content with what you have. You don't need all the extra stuff.

 

We’d still be living in caves if people never changed how they lived, just do what you do and if that makes you happy fine don’t worry about what other people do as long as they’re not harming anybody else I don’t see a problem we are all different 

[ariotofmyown]

14 minutes ago, Normanton Lad said:

I don't know if old people had much say about sugar in food. Their views have been ignored on much bigger issues.

I think musical taste is determined when you are young. If you've been brought up on a diet of loud electric guitar you are never going to be satisfied with something like lute music. Most people stick to what they like. I know very few people would enjoy the music I like but that doesn't bother me.

I like to listen to music without any distractions. For me it is not something I have on in the background. It makes me happy. However, it could be that music from a different musical genre might make me even happier. But what if the music from a different genre damages my hearing and stops me enjoying the music I like now. There is so much music in my own genre that I haven't even listened to yet that I haven't got time to explore other genres.

If you are content why change? Perhaps the woman next door could give me more pleasure than my wife, but why would I risk changing things and ruining what I have? I like plain food like porridge. I've never eaten Chinese food. Perhaps spicy food would give me more pleasure than my plain fare but it might also cause digestive problems or put me off my wife's cooking. Who knows what could happen.

Many of the bad things in this world (drugs, porn, etc) are caused by people looking for new sources of excitement. Be content with what you have. You don't need all the extra stuff.

 

Leaving your wife for your neighbour is not the same as trying some spicy food instead of porridge.

There are many different genres of music to loud eletric guitar. I guarantee that if you listen to some of that modern music, like say, Simon and Garfunkel, it won't damage your hearing. Many people like jazz, folk, classical and the modern stuff.

[Normanton Lad]

4 hours ago, Scott129 said:

Odd topic - I wouldn't say that I hate old people because they're old.

The only thing that grates on me is when they involve themselves in discussions about the housing market. They don't seem to be able to grasp that it's considerably harder to buy a house now than it was for them X years ago, and instead blame young people's inability to buy a home on their spending habits (Netflix, Starbucks, tattoos, etc.)

It always ends up in a competition of sorts - 'oh, well it was difficult for me too back in the day - I had to work overtime and cut back on spending, blah blah." Yeah, thanks Grandma, but that wouldn't make the slightest difference today.

Rant over haha.

Unlike many parts of the country I think it is still possible for most people in Derby to get on the housing market. You can get a house in Sutherland Road for about 100k. With an average wage I would guess you could get a mortgage for that, but I'm not sure what an average wage is today.

I've just checked an old paper and in 1971 a house in that street was going for £1,850. The price has gone up far more than wages. If the average wage was about £20 a week in 1971 then you would expect an average wage to be about £56k a year going by the house price increase. I've not checked my figures so that might be wrong.

They knocked many houses down in Derby in the 1960s and 1970s and I assumed that there were more houses then than now, but there are actually far more houses in Derby today. Owner occupied houses (the ones that normally come on the market) have gone up from 39k (1971) to 64k (2011).

https://www.visionofbritain.org.uk/unit/10033032/cube/HOUS_TENURE_GEN

The population of Derby has increased but at a much lower percentage than the available houses.  There seem to be reasons for the high cost of housing that are not obvious. 

[Normanton Lad]

5 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said:

Leaving your wife for your neighbour is not the same as trying some spicy food instead of porridge.

 

Porridge is my favourite food and it would be about the same in my book. If it came to my wife or porridge I'd have to think about it.

[Steve How Hard?]

9 hours ago, Normanton Lad said:

Porridge is my favourite food and it would be about the same in my book. If it came to my wife or porridge I'd have to think about it.

Basically a choice between eating your oats or getting your oats then? 😉

[Ram-Alf]

What's the "official age" to getting "Old", I know I'm getting older as my birth certificate says so, But I don't feel old, Is becoming a senior citizen the official target or is it something others pigeon hole people?

 

[JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta]

14 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

Well I remember when interest rates were 15% blah blah blah.

Didn't your family home cost you twice your salary though? With one working parent. And it's now worth 10x what you paid for it.

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Twice your salary? Try 3 or 4 times a salary these days. That's what a lot of a certain generation fail to grasp. Not all of them mind.

For what it's worth there is a lot to learn from older folk, but the world is so vastly different now to what it was even 30 years ago that it gets harder to relate as time marches on. The internet alone has changed the way the world does business and communicates for example.

I'd imagine it was the same for my grandparents though, the generation before them grew up in a time when the 'developed world' wasn't even fully motorised and potentially lived to see us put a man on the moon.

EDIT: Apologies @ariotofmyownI misread your comment, hence my reply which doesn't actually make sense.

Edited September 13, 2023 by JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta

[ariotofmyown]

2 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Twice your salary? Try 3 or 4 times a salary these days. That's what a lot of a certain generation fail to grasp. Not all of them mind.

For what it's worth there is a lot to learn from older folk, but the world is so vastly different now to what it was even 30 years ago that it gets harder to relate as time marches on. The internet alone has changed the way the world does business and communicates for example.

I'd imagine it was the same for my grandparents though, the generation before them grew up in a time when the 'developed world' wasn't even fully motorised and potentially lived to see us put a man on the moon.

EDIT: Apologies @ariotofmyownI misread your comment, hence my reply which doesn't actually make sense.

It does makes sense, just we are agreeing lol.

The pace of change is pretty crazy. My nan is nearly 98 now and the changes she has seen through her life are just incredible. A 100 year old in the 1920s would have seen some pretty big changes too, but not really like what we've witnessed in the last 100. 

Will the pace just keep accelerating now, especially if some of the hype around AI comes true. Or will everything just quickly crash and burn?