Derby vs Fleetwood - Match Thread

[Reggie Greenwood]

3 minutes ago, Srg said:

If you thought Beckham only took set pieces then I dunno what to tell you.

Point would be, Joe Ward (pre-injury) would get similar numbers, yet was much more valuable from open play. If you get someone who is better from open play than Hourihane, he should be taking his place. Currently, he's one of several who isn't showing enough.

That stat was from before Saturday’s game so no one had better numbers. 
He isn’t Messi but more effective than some give him credit for an easy whipping boy maybe. 
 

Beckham one trick pony who helped England get knocked out of two World Cups. Getting sent off for petulance in one and ducking out of a tackle V Brazil that cost a goal. 
 

[Archied]

12 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

Don’t they count then ? 
Beckham made a career from doing just that 😅

Ward prowes anyone?

[Jubbs]

1 hour ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

 

Yet from open play chances (per 90), he ranks 95th, that's shocking.

[Ghost of Clough]

1 hour ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

 

Open play key passes per 90 for Derby:

1. Wilson - 2.4
2. Bird - 2.0
3. Mendez-Laing - 1.6
4. Thompson - 1.6
5. Washington - 1.6
6. Ward - 1.4
7. Hourihane - 1.3
8. Waghorn - 0.9
9. Forsyth - 0.8
10. Collins - 0.7
11. Nelson - 0.5
12. Others - 0.0

[Srg]

1 hour ago, Reggie Greenwood said:

That stat was from before Saturday’s game so no one had better numbers. 
He isn’t Messi but more effective than some give him credit for an easy whipping boy maybe. 
 

Beckham one trick pony who helped England get knocked out of two World Cups. Getting sent off for petulance in one and ducking out of a tackle V Brazil that cost a goal. 
 

You've shown yourself to be pretty clueless right there, haven't you?

Sure, Real Madrid signed a one trick pony. Sure.

[Ambitious]

With Hourihane, regardless of anything else he has proven over the course of his career that he can score goals and is an asset from set-pieces. Smith and Bird just don't, neither does Thompson. They can play well, but ultimately you're getting no tangible output from them in terms of production. 

It's why Hourihane will and has to remain in the team. We need legs around him, but he's the one player who I just don't think you can drop as he can win you a game with a little bit of quality and quality is something we lack. 

[Ken Tram]

1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Open play key passes per 90 for Derby:

1. Wilson - 2.4
2. Bird - 2.0
3. Mendez-Laing - 1.6
4. Thompson - 1.6
5. Washington - 1.6
6. Ward - 1.4
7. Hourihane - 1.3
8. Waghorn - 0.9
9. Forsyth - 0.8
10. Collins - 0.7
11. Nelson - 0.5
12. Others - 0.0

This is very interesting! Can I ask where the data comes from?

[Jubbs]

2 minutes ago, Ken Tram said:

This is very interesting! Can I ask where the data comes from?

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/08/league-one-stats-2023-24-opta/

[Reggie Greenwood]

3 hours ago, Srg said:

You've shown yourself to be pretty clueless right there, haven't you?

Sure, Real Madrid signed a one trick pony. Sure.

Yeh sure 

[B4ev6is]

7 hours ago, Premier ram said:

Can’t agree with this B4

That's fine mate

We all have different opapions on stuff.

But I just feel Jake Rooney and laim Thompson are better players than him.

[Ken Tram]

On 21/08/2023 at 13:43, Jubbs said:

https://theanalyst.com/eu/2023/08/league-one-stats-2023-24-opta/

That is fascinating! Thanks again.