Could have been a contender?

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

1 minute ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

Jaden Bogle and Max Lowe?

Lowe was always a more reliable player to me than Bogle and a bit unlucky.  Bogle was getting games, particularly toward the end, where he was found wanting.  He also singlehandedly gave Forest 2 goals in 12 months.  

[BondJovi]

1 hour ago, Bris Vegas said:

To say he was an early developer is an understatement.

I was in his school year so played football with and against him regularly. He was a monster at 14. So much quicker, stronger and athletic compared to your average 14 year old. He ran rings around us and other kids of decent quality. It’s why he was playing England U17 despite still being in year 9/10. By year 11 he was barely in school anymore as at 15/16 he would have been training at Forest full time before making his debut at 17.

Long story short. It’s amazing how once he turned pro, he no longer stood out at a physical specimen and in contrast looked quite slow. He is amazingly only 5ft 9inch (he towered over everybody in my school year), and slight.

It has made me realize just how athletic top pros are.

Man City’s Nathan Ake looks small. But even he is two inches taller than McGugan (and myself being 5ft 9inch too).

Crazy.

Sounds similair to Liam Delap.

[Will the Ram]

Scott Sinclair (who played against us on Saturday). He looked like he was going to be a very good player when he scored a hat trick in the Play-off Final for Swansea. He went to Man City then his career went rapidly downhill.

[Yoxoram]

On 14/04/2023 at 17:53, RadioactiveWaste said:

Jaden Bogle and Max Lowe?

When I've seen Bogle playing for the Blades this season I think he's done ok. He's chipped in with a few goals as well.

[Yoxoram]

On 14/04/2023 at 17:58, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Lowe was always a more reliable player to me than Bogle and a bit unlucky.  Bogle was getting games, particularly toward the end, where he was found wanting.  He also singlehandedly gave Forest 2 goals in 12 months.  

Bogle was clearly the more talented of the two. To be fair to both, injuries have held them back.

[Bris Vegas]

Anyone know what happened with Lewin Nyatanga? He also seemed to stop playing at around 27 years old and hasn’t played since.

 

[May Contain Nuts]

21 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

Anyone know what happened with Lewin Nyatanga? He also seemed to stop playing at around 27 years old and hasn’t played since.

 

I remember reading an interview a while back, probably one of these:

https://thederbybook.wordpress.com/2020/07/12/sitting-down-with-lewin-nyatanga/ - From 2020

https://www.planetfootball.com/in-depth/lewin-nyatanga-i-know-a-lot-of-footballers-who-hate-football/ - From 2021

Fell out of love with the game (at 11!) / saw it as a job, didn't truly enjoy it despite his relative success etc. One of those. Team leader / personal trainer at a gym near Northampton now.

Edited April 19, 2023 by Kokosnuss

[mozza]

Arturo Lupoli

[kevinhectoring]

Giles Barnes     God given talents 

[IslandExile]

Mikkel Beck.

Would've had to have been something other than football though.

[FlyBritishMidland]

Robin Friday.  Like a lot of players of that time he was a flawed genius.

[Carl Sagan]

On 14/04/2023 at 12:04, sage said:

So everyone lists players who had injuries 

 

Whilst not a spectacular a demise as Alli, both Owen and Fowler were never the same by their mid 20s. A common theme is a lot of high level games played at a young age. 

I'd say it was much the same for Rooney. Best player in the world age 17. A passenger for England from his mid-20s onwards.

[Foreveram]

1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said:

I'd say it was much the same for Rooney. Best player in the world age 17. A passenger for England from his mid-20s onwards.

England player of the year two years running aged 28/29.

[alram]

1 hour ago, Carl Sagan said:

I'd say it was much the same for Rooney. Best player in the world age 17. A passenger for England from his mid-20s onwards.

rooney won everything there was to win as a player

 

how could anyone say "what could have been" with rooney?

 

think the question needs redefining if he is the answer

[Wolfie20]

26 minutes ago, Foreveram said:

England player of the year two years running aged 28/29.

Yeah but because they haven't given POTY to Sibley it counts for nothing!

[alram]

and if you are talking about genuinely world class players that didnt achieve what they could then it's brazilian Ronaldo

 

he was haaland levels at his age, yet managed 1 league title & a UEFA cup in his club career. for a player as good as he was in his early 20s and teens that is pretty disappointing even with the world cups

[angieram]

On 18/04/2023 at 17:46, Yoxoram said:

Bogle was clearly the more talented of the two. To be fair to both, injuries have held them back.

But it was Max Lowe who played in the FA Cup semifinal yesterday. And likely to be playing in the Prem next season. Neither of them have quite faded away yet.

[kevinhectoring]

3 hours ago, Carl Sagan said:

I'd say it was much the same for Rooney. Best player in the world age 17. A passenger for England from his mid-20s onwards.

In common w Lampard, Gerrard and a number of others, a much more distinguished career for club than for country 

[Ambitious]

When you start really analysing it, the majority of young players actually go backwards throughout their career. It’s exactly why I’ve always been surprised at clubs buying expensive young players for their potential, when the vast majority go the wrong way anyway. 

Obviously there are some high profile ones, i.e. Alli, but generally there is a ton. Just consider how many academy prospects we’ve brought through, who have broke into the team, very few went on to better things - certainly not in the long term. 

[Carl Sagan]

8 hours ago, Foreveram said:

England player of the year two years running aged 28/29.

Not by my choice. His best performance came as an 18 year old: