DerbysLane Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 This piece of excrement didn't deserve his own thread, so I'll add it on here. During his trial YouTube were still pushing his videos at me, despite me clicking the not interested/don't recommend buttons. Jailed for 5 and a half years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-62925746 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 31 minutes ago, DerbysLane said: This piece of excrement didn't deserve his own thread, so I'll add it on here. During his trial YouTube were still pushing his videos at me, despite me clicking the not interested/don't recommend buttons. Jailed for 5 and a half years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-62925746 Nottingham ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Unlucky Alf said: Nottingham ? One year for each finger and half a thumb cstand and Ram-Alf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 3 hours ago, DerbysLane said: This piece of excrement didn't deserve his own thread, so I'll add it on here. During his trial YouTube were still pushing his videos at me, despite me clicking the not interested/don't recommend buttons. Jailed for 5 and a half years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-62925746 I hadn't seen this. His earlier comments on the trial now make interesting reading in respect to the topic Quote Mr Belfield told the jury: "I'm a Nottingham lad with a potty mouth and I speak as I find it, and I appreciate that's not to everyone's taste. "People who claim I was stalking them were actively seeking out my content. "Human rights allows me to have free speech in this country, until you are given bail conditions where you cannot speak." Banged to rights pal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) Thought watching Owen Jones and James O Brien videos was bad enough but Alex took narcissism to another level but I could not help but watch. It was the forthcoming court date that kept me watching how on earth he thought he was good enough to defend himself in a court of law with no lawyer was unbelievable. This meant he could cross examine the victims for several days but really it meant he could keep on harassing them in front of a jury, then he refused to give evidence in his defence. !! Hard to believe people donated money to his cause of being a whistle blower then never employed a lawyer. Edited September 16, 2022 by cstand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 5 hours ago, DerbysLane said: This piece of excrement didn't deserve his own thread, so I'll add it on here. During his trial YouTube were still pushing his videos at me, despite me clicking the not interested/don't recommend buttons. Jailed for 5 and a half years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-62925746 He got done for stalking though. Not sure what this has got to do with freedom of speech. Or whether he's from Nottingham or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbysLane Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 (edited) He didn't physically stalk anyone. It was through his YouTube channel and an avalanche of emails. He has Vardy levels of delusion, appears to thinks he can say anything through freedom of speech. Well he can but it's going to cost him at least 2 and a half years in jail and Jeremy Vine is also going the libel route so it'll probably cost him all his money too. As David said in his first post "Freedom of speech does not give you freedom of consequences". I can't think of a better example. Edited September 16, 2022 by DerbysLane Stive Pesley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 14 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: He got done for stalking though. Not sure what this has got to do with freedom of speech. Or whether he's from Nottingham or not. Well he kinda used the fact he was a "potty mouthed lad from Nottingham" to explain/excuse some of his behaviour, so I don't think it's totally irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 What was his problem with these people he was cyber stalking. Ive not seen any reason in the media, was it personal, BBC work related? I must admit I'd not really heard of him until a few weeks ago and never seen any of his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 14 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: He got done for stalking though. Not sure what this has got to do with freedom of speech. Or whether he's from Nottingham or not. I do not see that much difference between this Belfield character's sort of behaviour and those who go out of their way to hurl abuse at a family grieving the loss of their mother. The defence of free speech just doesn't apply , it's not your right to try and deliberately cause distress. Alph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: What was his problem with these people he was cyber stalking. Ive not seen any reason in the media, was it personal, BBC work related? I must admit I'd not really heard of him until a few weeks ago and never seen any of his stuff. I don't really know , for seem reason Belfield had 300k followers on youtube. I think he had some beef with the BBC (maybe because they didn't keep him on). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Bit weird that he was found guilty of stalking all of the men but none of the women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, PistoldPete said: I do not see that much difference between this Belfield character's sort of behaviour and those who go out of their way to hurl abuse at a family grieving the loss of their mother. The defence of free speech just doesn't apply , it's not your right to try and deliberately cause distress. Would the guy who hurled abuse at Randy Andy at the procession and arrested, Been treated the same if it were...say...in a Pizza Express. I guess it's the occasion and not the person that's the issue. Crewton and uttoxram75 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 22 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: I guess it's the occasion and not the person that's the issue. Yup - pretty much the same conclusion of the "death of comedy" thread I don't care if Chubby Brown and Jim Davidson want to tell bigoted jokes to an audience who find it funny. I just wouldn't want to have it foisted on me against my will. It's my choice to NOT go to listen to that material. Same as anyone else who likes Jimmy Carr, Ricky Gervais, Jerry Sadowitz, Frankie Boyle and any other comedian that has made headlines through their material The problem comes when the press report it, as then people react as if they have been forced to hear jokes they don't like or don't find funny Same with Prince Andrew - he's clearly not a very nice human being, and I can say that on here and face no sanctions. But I wouldn't go shouting it in a crowd of royalists mourning the death of his mother! uttoxram75 and Crewton 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 26 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said: Same with Prince Andrew - he's clearly not a very nice human being, and I can say that on here and face no sanctions. But I wouldn't go shouting it in a crowd of royalists mourning the death of his mother! There's a time and a place to go mouthing off, Bad planning, I'm no Royalist, January 30th 1649 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Unlucky Alf said: Would the guy who hurled abuse at Randy Andy at the procession and arrested, Been treated the same if it were...say...in a Pizza Express. I guess it's the occasion and not the person that's the issue. I would say everyone has the right to free speech. But not to go out of your way to cause distress… bombarding someone with thousands of emails or gatecrashing “Randy Andy ‘s “ mothers procession is not on whatever grievance you may have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) https://www.gbnews.uk/news/christian-group-takes-legal-action-after-being-blocked-from-holding-cambridge-university-conference/367361 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/17/academic-who-said-witch-hunt-racist-phrase-faces-170000-court/?fbclid=IwAR00y8nYQU59i0nh8gMaHGf1gsPW3FPI_Qn0YG8L_6Jd_jJuD8_ZafBg3ok What on earth has happened to our Universities once the envy of the World now a total embarrassment. Edited September 18, 2022 by cstand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, cstand said: https://www.gbnews.uk/news/christian-group-takes-legal-action-after-being-blocked-from-holding-cambridge-university-conference/367361 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/17/academic-who-said-witch-hunt-racist-phrase-faces-170000-court/?fbclid=IwAR00y8nYQU59i0nh8gMaHGf1gsPW3FPI_Qn0YG8L_6Jd_jJuD8_ZafBg3ok What on earth has happened to our Universities once the envy of the World now a total embarrassment. Can't read the Telegraph one, but the "Christian" group sounds pretty unsavoury. Whilst your reading of the situation is presumabley aimed at those boring cancel culture stories within universities, this simply seems that a Christian group want to hire a university college building to run their own conference. The college has looked up what the group is about and decided they don't want to take the business of a group that seems to be anti-homosexual, anti-abortion, anti-Islam etc. More damning than that, the group have worked with Nadine Dorris! Should organisations have the freedom to refuse the business of groups that hold fundamentalist views? Would GB News run a similar story if the college refused the business of, say, a sect of Muslims who were anti-Christian? Edited September 18, 2022 by ariotofmyown Comrade 86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 4 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: Whilst your reading of the situation is presumabley aimed at those boring cancel culture stories within universities Always a good one. All these loony leftie universities, supposedly indoctrinating the finest minds of the nation with "woke garbage" - leading to us elect a succession of extreme left-wing governments year after year...oh hang on Comrade 86, therealhantsram and ariotofmyown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, ariotofmyown said: Can't read the Telegraph one, but the "Christian" group sounds pretty unsavoury. Whilst your reading of the situation is presumabley aimed at those boring cancel culture stories within universities, this simply seems that a Christian group want to hire a university college building to run their own conference. The college has looked up what the group is about and decided they don't want to take the business of a group that seems to be anti-homosexual, anti-abortion, anti-Islam etc. More damning than that, the group have worked with Nadine Dorris! Should organisations have the freedom to refuse the business of groups that hold fundamentalist views? Would GB News run a similar story if the college refused the business of, say, a sect of Muslims who were anti-Christian? I have watched Oxford debates by Tommy Robinson and Jeremy Corbyn not a fan of either but at least I could listen to their views and make my own decision. Both would be banned now by the divisive cancel culture within our universities it’s about time the government intervened. Never mentioned looney left or woke garbage it’s about free speech being denied at Universities which are supposed to be open and inclusive to all views. Edited September 18, 2022 by cstand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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