Jimbo Ram Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, davenportram said: Then another 48 hours Ok, my bad, 96 hours ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 I'm probably way off the mark, but surely if an agreement is reached with all creditors (Boro and WW are not at this moment creditors) then they will receive the sum agreed? There won't be an agreement which says "we'll accept £X,but don't pay us until Boro and WW have put in an official complaint, the EFL have appointed an independent tribunal, the tribunal have decided if there is a case to answer and how much the compensation should be. If you have to pay then we'll reduce our asking price accordingly!". Won't the amount we have to pay be the amount agreed? If Boro and WW do receive compensation it will be a sum apart, which is the whole sticking point for potential buyers isn't it? Jimbo Ram and i-Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, Curtains said: That’s how Derby County seem against the EFL . When will it ever end I think it would need to be voted by the other 72 members. It could go 70 for 2 against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: The worst is being ignored by the you and the EFL. They would not be Derby County, we would no longer be a founder member of the EFL - that is what they want too. It would be a different club. So just pick a.n.other club to support, it'll be the same. Well maybe you need a dose of reality - we are in genuine danger of being put out of business and hiding your head in the sand or attacking other posters while crying in your beer isn't going to change that. If the worst happens I'm not giving up on watching football (though I've been termpted a number of times over recent seasons) but I will support my local club regardless (not just pick another club as you so glibly suggest). That may have to be Mickleover or it may be a phoenix club - but if that phoenix club represents the city and is in League 2, I'd suggest that is prefereable to starting in the 9th tier as should probably be the case....It won't be the same club and those responsible will never be forgiven but sadly there's a damn good chance Derby County is in it's final season and people need to start thinking what happens in that case.... Maharan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Ramitupper said: You surprise me Now that is a surprise! Curtains 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Sue the EFL they made us do it!? Yes the EFL is in big trouble here and they know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 33 minutes ago, Abu Derby said: League 2 then if we’re liquified. The chances of setting up a Phoenix club in time for the announcement of next seasons fixtures is slim to none, unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 18 minutes ago, Gaspode said: Well maybe you need a dose of reality - we are in genuine danger of being put out of business and hiding your head in the sand or attacking other posters while crying in your beer isn't going to change that. Thank you. You don't get it. You said "... If the worst does happen, League 2 would be significantly higher in the pyramid than I could possibly have hoped for..." The dose of reality is Derby County will no longer exist. A club in League 2 is not Derby County. That is the point I was making, what is your point? RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 38 minutes ago, richinspain said: I'm probably way off the mark, but surely if an agreement is reached with all creditors (Boro and WW are not at this moment creditors) then they will receive the sum agreed? There won't be an agreement which says "we'll accept £X,but don't pay us until Boro and WW have put in an official complaint, the EFL have appointed an independent tribunal, the tribunal have decided if there is a case to answer and how much the compensation should be. If you have to pay then we'll reduce our asking price accordingly!". Won't the amount we have to pay be the amount agreed? If Boro and WW do receive compensation it will be a sum apart, which is the whole sticking point for potential buyers isn't it? Agreed. What I thought. Creditors will get paid agreed amount and a contingency pot will be set aside for MWW… richinspain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Thank you. You don't get it. You said "... If the worst does happen, League 2 would be significantly higher in the pyramid than I could possibly have hoped for..." The dose of reality is Derby County will no longer exist. A club in League 2 is not Derby County. That is the point I was making, what is your point? Didn’t Forest go through some financial problems, and in theory the current club didn’t win the European cup twice (back to back apparently) RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Boycie said: Didn’t Forest go through some financial problems, and in theory the current club didn’t win the European cup twice (back to back apparently) Don't know now. But that sounds like it MUST be true! ? Have started a thread about 'liquidation', it sounds very complicated. #COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Don't know now. But that sounds like it MUST be true! ? Have started a thread about 'liquidation', it sounds very complicated. #COYR Well it’s a fact now! ? RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldben Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 https://www.google.com/amp/s/footballleagueworld.co.uk/mike-ashleys-stance-on-potential-Derby-county-takeover-becomes-clearer/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Oldben said: https://www.google.com/amp/s/footballleagueworld.co.uk/mike-ashleys-stance-on-potential-Derby-county-takeover-becomes-clearer/amp/ Surely Morris will be flexible about the stadium price under the circumstances. Not sure what legal and admin costs he is referring to. If he is genuinely serious he needs to make an offer promptly and get things sorted sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, richinspain said: I'm probably way off the mark, but surely if an agreement is reached with all creditors (Boro and WW are not at this moment creditors) then they will receive the sum agreed? There won't be an agreement which says "we'll accept £X,but don't pay us until Boro and WW have put in an official complaint, the EFL have appointed an independent tribunal, the tribunal have decided if there is a case to answer and how much the compensation should be. If you have to pay then we'll reduce our asking price accordingly!". Won't the amount we have to pay be the amount agreed? If Boro and WW do receive compensation it will be a sum apart, which is the whole sticking point for potential buyers isn't it? I think the sticking point for EFL is that Q wanted to compromise the offer by ignoring it. If it will be dealt with in full after arbitration (and after we leave administration) it is no longer avoiding it and increases the pot for current agreed creditors as it won’t be diluted by their claims Jimbo Ram, Maharan, richinspain and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Do Q work on Sunday? Considering the incoming artificial EFL deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 28 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Thank you. You don't get it. You said "... If the worst does happen, League 2 would be significantly higher in the pyramid than I could possibly have hoped for..." The dose of reality is Derby County will no longer exist. A club in League 2 is not Derby County. That is the point I was making, what is your point? Rolls Royce went bust and they're still here- didn't they tweak their name or something? RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Do Q work on Sunday? Considering the incoming artificial EFL deadline. No, it’s the Sabbath ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Rolls Royce went bust and they're still here- didn't they tweak their name or something? What Rose Royce? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, SamUltraRam said: The chances of setting up a Phoenix club in time for the announcement of next seasons fixtures is slim to none, unfortunately You can be a late entrant, But have to accept a -21 point deduction at the start of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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