DCFC27 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 13 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: The crunch will come next week, the EFL will seek reassurance from the administrators that they have got a short term loan or offers for players to cover this months wages, if they can't raise a short term loan then i can see the EFL taking further action (not the 3 point deduction) and bring things to an end. We can't keep trading whilst insolvent. It is not in anyones interest to let the debt keep rising. Not EFLs choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, i-Ram said: . Has Andrew Hoskings knobbed your Mrs in the past? No but he Pricked her ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, DCFC27 said: Not EFLs choice. To remove membership yes it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: The crunch will come next week, the EFL will seek reassurance from the administrators that they have got a short term loan or offers for players to cover this months wages, if they can't raise a short term loan then i can see the EFL taking further action (not the 3 point deduction) and bring things to an end. We can't keep trading whilst insolvent. It is not in anyones interest to let the debt keep rising. Oh yeast of little faith atherstoneram and Hans Datdo-Dishes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: That's all well and good for the finance bods. But what about the individuals? The fans? A number of them (on here and elsewhere) appear to be concerned about paying in full up front, only for the club to shut down part way through, and said individual/fan going straight to the foot of the ever-lengthening queue of creditors. Even those using credit cards may not be covered by the card company, under the circumstances. (I honestly don't know... check with your card issuer, folks!) My interpretation is that’s the reason Q are looking to secure funding for the season, that way there is a guarantee of at least one more full season of DCFC meaning those fans who can and want to are able to buy their season ticket with confidence. There is however the small issue of the season finishing AFTER March 2023 which according to the EFL’s rules is the cut off point for the 18 months the clan can be in administration. Perhaps we’ll benefit from some of that famed EFL favour/flexibility fans of other clubs seem so sure we’ve already had on that particular point ? Edited June 21, 2022 by Caerphilly Ram Mucker1884 and r_wilcockson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, atherstoneram said: Any other business would be liquidated for trading while insolvent. I really hate to say this but it is going to take a fairly big loan to see the season out, yes players budget will be down but the club won't be exempt from the increase of utility prices, wage increase for any staff on minimum wage (if any) plus other sundry price increases. How can we get a loan off anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: There are suggestions Ashley has tried to force q to reduce fees - that might have been a reason he was derailed Also quite possible that Stretford and Rooney somehow forced q to re-open discussions with CK. (it’s notable how little we have heard from Rooney) We’re now in the position where Q’s unpaid fees are so high they themselves have a conflict in continuing to act All speculation isn’t it. What we do know is that at the time of the bids in December the Boro claim was still current. And q said none of the bidders wanted to accept any responsibility for that. And I don’t doubt that. kevinhectoring and Red Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, duncanjwitham said: So in the last 24 hours on here, we've had people on here openly criticising Quantuma for: Ignoring the EFL (they're the regulator!). Complying with EFL demands to sell players to raise funds. Selling players and devaluing the club/risking relegation. Not selling players to raise funds and cut costs (to avoid racking up so much extra debt paying wages etc). And some people think Quantuma are the major problem here... If we all agreed with everything there wouldn’t be need for a forum. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: Oh yeast of little faith To see the club survive would be the icing on the cake. Ram-Alf and Ken Tram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 We should be looking forward to the new season but thanks to MM (and a bit of EFL, Gibson etc) we are witnessing possibly the slow death of DCFC. Disgusting SaffyRam, jimtastic56, Gritstone Tup and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Gritstone Tup said: If we all agreed with everything there wouldn’t be need for a forum. Wishful thinking RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: Oh yeast of little faith I’ll keep my baking powder dry Ken Tram and Ram-Alf 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: We should be looking forward to the new season but thanks to MM (and a bit of EFL, Gibson etc) we are witnessing possibly the slow death of DCFC. Disgusting Despite what people might think i want the club to survive but i am just taking a pragmatic view about the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 51 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: There are suggestions Ashley has tried to force q to reduce fees - that might have been a reason he was derailed Also quite possible that Stretford and Rooney somehow forced q to re-open discussions with CK. (it’s notable how little we have heard from Rooney) We’re now in the position where Q’s unpaid fees are so high they themselves have a conflict in continuing to act MA hasn’t done us any favours with his micro mindset. You’d think that trying to reduce Qs fees by £500,000 was neither here nor there in the bigger picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 minute ago, atherstoneram said: Despite what people might think i want the club to survive but i am just taking a pragmatic view about the situation. I don’t know what you’ve posted... I’m complaining about MM who has ruined the club and made it unsellable. atherstoneram and CROSSWORD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 34 minutes ago, i-Ram said: I am getting out of here Mucker; the negativity of far too many is getting me down, indeed beginning to boil my piss. Q will make season tickets available with some assurance of fan protection I am certain of that. Up the Rams! First and foremost... sorry to read that buddy, and more sorry that I seemed to have played my part! I know where you're coming from, and I must admit, I generally tend to merely skip through the negativity. It's not in my nature, as I suspect neither is it in yours. For my part, I guess I've been drinking the devils advocaat a little this morning, and commenting based on other peoples comments, rather than my own thoughts/opinions. I certainly don't have a problem with renewing (in the usual manner... up front) if and when the bloody things go on sale, but I'm not ignorant enough to not realise some are not in as fortunate position as myself, and some will have to cut their cloth more, and take less risks! I hope you are right about the assurances to fans... for others, more than myself. If I lose my little stake, I'm lucky enough just to shrug it off, utter the word "meh", and find me another weekend hobby! Stay strong, bro. ? jono and Caerphilly Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, minesahartington said: I’ll keep my baking powder dry Don't be so crusty! Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, Gritstone Tup said: MA hasn’t done us any favours with his micro mindset. You’d think that trying to reduce Qs fees by £500,000 was neither here nor there in the bigger picture. Blame the person who ran up the debt, not others. S8TY, jimtastic56, Red Ram and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I see it is now the time for some more half-baked puns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, roboto said: I see it is now the time for some more half-baked puns. * buns! Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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