The Championship 21/22

[JfR]

 

[Crewton]

4 hours ago, JfR said:

 

Reading's players must be worried if they don't even go hard watching Paun for hours during training. 

[JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta]

Watch everyone beg for FFP to be reformed now, despite the fact they are all seemingly happy to watch us get ripped to bits over it. I hope the EFL get after Bristol and go as hard on them as they went on us, they are taking the piss.

I wonder what that jebend Mr Pop on the Bristol forum makes of this.

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-bristol-city-losses-pandemic-championship-opinion

[WhiteHorseRam]

7 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Watch everyone beg for FFP to be reformed now, despite the fact they are all seemingly happy to watch us get ripped to bits over it. I hope the EFL get after Bristol and go as hard on them as they went on us, they are taking the piss.

I wonder what that jebend Mr Pop on the Bristol forum makes of this.

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-bristol-city-losses-pandemic-championship-opinion

Where would you be without a sense of humour?

 

 

 

 

Bristol.

[Rams forever]

Wow that's an automatic 12 point deduction surely? 

[Crewton]

You can see why other clubs want the focus to be completely on DCFC, can't you? 

[Sparkle]

11 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Watch everyone beg for FFP to be reformed now, despite the fact they are all seemingly happy to watch us get ripped to bits over it. I hope the EFL get after Bristol and go as hard on them as they went on us, they are taking the piss.

I wonder what that jebend Mr Pop on the Bristol forum makes of this.

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-bristol-city-losses-pandemic-championship-opinion

They won’t fail this season - maybe next season but like you say they will be intent on changing the rules and try to use us as an excuse for them losing an average of £412,000 per week for TEN years 

[Crewton]

Good old Chrissie Martin, still scoring goals for Derby. 

[Sparkle]

1 hour ago, Crewton said:

Good old Chrissie Martin, still scoring goals for Derby. 

Wieman pops in with a few as well 

[JamesBCFC]

17 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Watch everyone beg for FFP to be reformed now, despite the fact they are all seemingly happy to watch us get ripped to bits over it. I hope the EFL get after Bristol and go as hard on them as they went on us, they are taking the piss.

I wonder what that jebend Mr Pop on the Bristol forum makes of this.

https://www.football365.com/news/opinion-bristol-city-losses-pandemic-championship-opinion

While our accounts arent good by any margin, in what way are we taking the piss? Baring in mind those losses in the last 10 years included the stadium redevelopment and a new training ground built- both things that show as our losses in the accounts, but dont count towards FFP at all.

Bottom half in terms of wage/turnover ratio and actually cut down our wages in the summer just gone because we are getting close to our limits in FFP, 10 players sold or released and just 4 incomings to replace them, 2 of those free transfers, one signed from League 2 and one from League 1 for just over 1m.

Weimann and Baker both released then re-signed on lower wages.

 

So having not breached FFP, we've taken pre-emptive action to prevent ourselves from actually doing so.

 

Even our line up today had 2 academy players and 3 more who technically count as trained by us (Massengo who we got from Monaco 2 years ago, Semenyo who we signed from a local college and Scott who we signed from Guernsey FC when he was about 15) and another 3 who have been with us for 4+ years. The other 3 that started were a free transfer this year, a free transfer last year and Atkinson who was one of 2 fees we paid this summer.

3 more academy players/graduates on the bench. 

It's hardly a team thats been throwing money around to flout FFP, or make up its own accounting rules to try and skirt around FFP.

Edited January 22, 2022 by JamesBCFC

[JPRamFan]

At least Reading, Cardiff, Barnsley and PBoro all lost

[Wolfie20]

12 minutes ago, JPRamFan said:

At least Reading, Cardiff, Barnsley and PBoro all lost

.....and Stoke, even though they're not down there with us. Helps the weekend go better when they lose. 

[GenBr]

25 minutes ago, JamesBCFC said:

While our accounts arent good by any margin, in what way are we taking the piss? Baring in mind those losses in the last 10 years included the stadium redevelopment and a new training ground built- both things that show as our losses in the accounts, but dont count towards FFP at all.

Bottom half in terms of wage/turnover ratio and actually cut down our wages in the summer just gone because we are getting close to our limits in FFP, 10 players sold or released and just 4 incomings to replace them, 2 of those free transfers, one signed from League 2 and one from League 1 for just over 1m.

Weimann and Baker both released then re-signed on lower wages.

 

So having not breached FFP, we've taken pre-emptive action to prevent ourselves from actually doing so.

 

Even our line up today had 2 academy players and 3 more who technically count as trained by us (Massengo who we got from Monaco 2 years ago, Semenyo who we signed from a local college and Scott who we signed from Guernsey FC when he was about 15) and another 3 who have been with us for 4+ years. The other 3 that started were a free transfer this year, a free transfer last year and Atkinson who was one of 2 fees we paid this summer.

3 more academy players/graduates on the bench. 

It's hardly a team thats been throwing money around to flout FFP, or make up its own accounting rules to try and skirt around FFP.

Hahahaha. You sound the way  Derby fans did last year. We'll see if you stay within FFP, but your owner is gunning hard for FFP reform for a team you think is going to be comfortably within the limits ?.

And you did make some valid points until you tried to make that little back handed dig at the end there. We didnt make up accountancy rules either (and before you say thats not what you said its clearly implied). The sale of our stadium was not against the rules and neither was our amortisation methid but it didnt stop the EFL coming after us regardless ?

[JPRamFan]

4 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said:

.....and Stoke, even though they're not down there with us. Helps the weekend go better when they lose. 

Especially now that they signed Jagielka within 2mins of him leaving

[Bris Vegas]

Disappointing to see Hull pick up six points from Blackburn and Bournemouth.

It seemed they were the most likely 3d team to potentially catch as they were dire earlier on this season.

I’d say our attention has now switched to Reading who look like a side capable of throwing the towel in.

[Wolfie20]

14 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

Disappointing to see Hull pick up six points from Blackburn and Bournemouth.

It seemed they were the most likely 3d team to potentially catch as they were dire earlier on this season.

I’d say our attention has now switched to Reading who look like a side capable of throwing the towel in.

I'd say it's Reading and Cardiff who are the most likely teams to catch. Still to play Cardiff twice so win both of them and it becomes very interesting, especially with the home game to finish off the season.

[Sparkle]

5 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

Disappointing to see Hull pick up six points from Blackburn and Bournemouth.

It seemed they were the most likely 3d team to potentially catch as they were dire earlier on this season.

I’d say our attention has now switched to Reading who look like a side capable of throwing the towel in.

True in terms of Reading but they are starting to get their forwards back so it gets harder as they are more than capable of winning games - now if we had a goal scorer who knows 

[JamesBCFC]

18 hours ago, GenBr said:

Hahahaha. You sound the way  Derby fans did last year. We'll see if you stay within FFP, but your owner is gunning hard for FFP reform for a team you think is going to be comfortably within the limits ?.

And you did make some valid points until you tried to make that little back handed dig at the end there. We didnt make up accountancy rules either (and before you say thats not what you said its clearly implied). The sale of our stadium was not against the rules and neither was our amortisation methid but it didnt stop the EFL coming after us regardless ?

Comfortably within them? Probably not, but within them, most likely.

We took 1/3 of the wages off in the summer just gone, O'Leary has been playing all January to prepare for Bentley getting sold and 2 players took a 50% cut before re-signing

[Ghost of Clough]

On 22/01/2022 at 16:50, JamesBCFC said:

While our accounts arent good by any margin, in what way are we taking the piss? Baring in mind those losses in the last 10 years included the stadium redevelopment and a new training ground built- both things that show as our losses in the accounts, but dont count towards FFP at all.

Bottom half in terms of wage/turnover ratio and actually cut down our wages in the summer just gone because we are getting close to our limits in FFP, 10 players sold or released and just 4 incomings to replace them, 2 of those free transfers, one signed from League 2 and one from League 1 for just over 1m.

Weimann and Baker both released then re-signed on lower wages.

 

So having not breached FFP, we've taken pre-emptive action to prevent ourselves from actually doing so.

 

Even our line up today had 2 academy players and 3 more who technically count as trained by us (Massengo who we got from Monaco 2 years ago, Semenyo who we signed from a local college and Scott who we signed from Guernsey FC when he was about 15) and another 3 who have been with us for 4+ years. The other 3 that started were a free transfer this year, a free transfer last year and Atkinson who was one of 2 fees we paid this summer.

3 more academy players/graduates on the bench. 

It's hardly a team thats been throwing money around to flout FFP, or make up its own accounting rules to try and skirt around FFP.

You come on a Derby forum to big up the fact 2 of your 4 signings were frees...

You're preaching to the wrong club when it comes to academy players. We only have 10 players in the entire squad who didn't come through the academy system. 1 of which is now suspended for 3 games and another will be lucky if he's fit enough to play before March.

[JamesBCFC]

18 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

You come on a Derby forum to big up the fact 2 of your 4 signings were frees...

You're preaching to the wrong club when it comes to academy players. We only have 10 players in the entire squad who didn't come through the academy system. 1 of which is now suspended for 3 games and another will be lucky if he's fit enough to play before March.

No, but I was pointing out that we are taking actions to slow down the increase of our wages, and now decrease them before we ran 10 miles past the regulations.

the fact you got academy players in your squad after you had embargos forced upon you and were forced down that route isnt much of a counter point