Carl Sagan Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Mentioned by @whiteroseramin the Academy thread, but I thought there'd be plenty who'd be interested in a separate thread on Jake's return to look after the U23s until the end of this season, after Gary Bowyer's (temporary?) move away. https://the72.co.uk/228643/Derby-county-turn-to-jake-buxton-as-under-23s-manager/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Pat Lyons manages the U23s, isn't Bowyer just a coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Love Bucko - we all do - but is he the right person to be training the kids on quick pass and move football? Or is it a reflection on the new tactics employed by the first team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted March 25, 2021 Author Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Carnero said: Pat Lyons manages the U23s, isn't Bowyer just a coach? I *knew* there was something odd about this story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Rambe33 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, IslandExile said: Love Bucko - we all do - but is he the right person to be training the kids on quick pass and move football? Or is it a reflection on the new tactics employed by the first team? To be fair, when Bucko was playing under Mac 1 and formed the partnership with Keogh, his passing range was superb. Better than anyone in our current team. The tactics currently being employed by the first team is sideways and back, if we went more direct and back to how Rooney picked up points it would only be a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I would say the U23s weakest attribute is the defence. Makes sense to add a defender to the training staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson. Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Were a joke. Detach your self from the sentiment, and I was one of his biggest admirers, but why are we employing him? Having watched his embarrassing failure at Burton it's lost on me. It's bad enough appointing unproven novices but employing ex players that are a proven failure just beggars belief. No wonder we are in such a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I would've thought they could find a role for Curtis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I thought Mac wasn’t a big fan of Bucko? P.s. I’ll be surprised if Gary bowyer comes back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 Just now, IslandExile said: I would've thought they could find a role for Curtis. I thought he said we want to go into some sort of media job once he retires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, RamNut said: I thought Mac wasn’t a big fan of Bucko? P.s. I’ll be surprised if Gary bowyer comes back To be fair, every manager (including Clough) tried to buy someone better, only for Bucko to improve every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 29 minutes ago, Pearson. said: Were a joke. Detach your self from the sentiment, and I was one of his biggest admirers, but why are we employing him? Having watched his embarrassing failure at Burton it's lost on me. It's bad enough appointing unproven novices but employing ex players that are a proven failure just beggars belief. No wonder we are in such a mess. A lot of ex players become youth team coaches at their old clubs. Jody Morris at Chelsea Nicky Butt at Man Utd Darren Wassall & Rory Delap at Derby Liam Rosenior at Brighton I think Rowett was coaching in our acadamy before he left for Burton. I am sure there will be plenty more other examples too but you moan about a novice manager then criticise the ones who start further down the food chain to gain experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 54 minutes ago, Pearson. said: Were a joke. Detach your self from the sentiment, and I was one of his biggest admirers, but why are we employing him? Having watched his embarrassing failure at Burton it's lost on me. It's bad enough appointing unproven novices but employing ex players that are a proven failure just beggars belief. No wonder we are in such a mess. He’s gone from being a First Team Manager to Temporary Under-23s Assistant Manager. Do you expect him to never work again? Does he get no chance to rebuild his career? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 58 minutes ago, RamNut said: I thought Mac wasn’t a big fan of Bucko? P.s. I’ll be surprised if Gary bowyer comes back His nickname is boomerang so maybe he will ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, cannable said: He’s gone from being a First Team Manager to Temporary Under-23s Assistant Manager. Do you expect him to never work again? Does he get no chance to rebuild his career? I agree. He was a great example of someone who had to fight like mad to have a professional career, had to constantly fight for his place, never gave up, never moaned, just got on with proving people wrong and putting a shift in whenever called upon. He might just have a sound knowledge of what sort of attitude could help a lad to make it. Skil, technical ability, talent, whatever you call it, is not enough, you have to have the mental strength to take the knocks, lose your place, be criticised and be able to fight back, wait for your chance, work on your weaknesses. Jake might not be a great manager but there is no reason why he couldn't be a great coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, uttoxram75 said: I agree. He was a great example of someone who had to fight like mad to have a professional career, had to constantly fight for his place, never gave up, never moaned, just got on with proving people wrong and putting a shift in whenever called upon. He might just have a sound knowledge of what sort of attitude could help a lad to make it. Skil, technical ability, talent, whatever you call it, is not enough, you have to have the mental strength to take the knocks, lose your place, be criticised and be able to fight back, wait for your chance, work on your weaknesses. Jake might not be a great manager but there is no reason why he couldn't be a great coach. Fantastic Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Coach....great bloke but again question the decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 He’s been helping out with the u18’s and U23’s for several weeks. he was coaching in the academy before taking the burton managers job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I have no idea how good a coach Bucko is but I can’t help thinking of Brian Glover in Kes. Everybody on the half way line, my first pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFox1993 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Pearson. said: Were a joke. Detach your self from the sentiment, and I was one of his biggest admirers, but why are we employing him? Having watched his embarrassing failure at Burton it's lost on me. It's bad enough appointing unproven novices but employing ex players that are a proven failure just beggars belief. No wonder we are in such a mess. wow i bet you're fun at parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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