Rampage Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Some very good players available. It's not beyond possibility to build a top 6 sqaud without spending anything on transfer fees. Exactly what I think GofC. Add a few top loanees and we could be top three maybe. Takeover would help, we hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Some very good players available. It's not beyond possibility to build a top 6 sqaud without spending anything on transfer fees. You’ve got to think Rooney would be a persuasive recruiter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: That wage bill was for the 17/18 season. Even using pessimistic estimations for wages, the wage bill has to have dropped below £30m. Using more realistic estimations we'd be in the £20-25m mark. There were suggestions of Mel needing £2m a month to pay the players for the rest of the season which backs this up. Maybe it's those one or two additions we need which will transform the team from fairly average to being a playoff contender? We've seen the difference Bielik makes. Similar to 13/14 when the additions of Eustace and Martin made a big difference? I would imagine the club wage bill must be about in line with what gets brought in now in a usual season, not accounting for transfer costs which will probably be on a spend what you sell basis for sometime. On the other hand it could be worse . Forests FFP bird must be coming home to roost again as they posted a 32 million loss for 19/20 and that's without this seasons new 15 player wage bonanza and associated fees on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 He signed a contract to become permanent manager of this football club before any takeover, by any party, has happened. So why would he leave if one never arrives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Rampage said: Exactly what I think GofC. Add a few top loanees and we could be top three maybe. Takeover would help, we hope. 2CBs and 1AM look to be missing from the starting lineup for next season. Academy players can fill most of the small gaps, maybe someone like Delap on loan for the rotation option at CF, competing with Kazim. We should be going in for the likes of Phillips (Liverpool), Long (Burnley) and maybe even Ream (Fulham) or McIntyre (Reading)for the CBs. For an outside the box option there's Schonlau from Paderborn (German 2nd division). For AM there's Powell (Stoke), Emiliano (Brentford) and Bernabe (Man City). Or if we want a CM instead there's Bannan (Weds) and Rothwell (Blackburn). At CF, there's Balogun (Arsenal), Fletcher (Boro), Diedhiou (Bristol), Dursun (Darmstadt). 6 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I would imagine the club wage bill must be about in line with what gets brought in now in a usual season, not accounting for transfer costs which will probably be on a spend what you sell basis for sometime. On the other hand it could be worse . Forests FFP bird must be coming home to roost again as they posted a 32 million loss for 19/20 and that's without this seasons new 15 player wage bonanza and associated fees on top. Their accounts said £16m with £5m loan write off for 19/20 which must have put them close to the P&S limit. Without another £10m sale early in the summer I can't see them passing the 2021 period. Next season becomes even more difficult for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 10 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Some very good players available. It's not beyond possibility to build a top 6 sqaud without spending anything on transfer fees. If you were out of contract and a top-6 level player, would you choose Derby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floppy Sausage Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 11 hours ago, Rampage said: Apparently there are 150 EFL players out of contract at the end of this season to choose from. Should be quite a scramble. Who are out of contract, mostly because they are poo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floppy Sausage Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I think we will be looking at loans next season, regardless of takeover. The players available to Rooney should be a lot stronger than what was available in January. For example, if we can pick up players like Liam Delap, we will be looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 51 minutes ago, Chester40 said: If you were out of contract and a top-6 level player, would you choose Derby? Guaranteed game time, I'd likely be one of the missing ingredients to make it a top 6 squad, playing at a big club under Rooney. There's a reasonable chance I would. Obviously, it depends what other offers come in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 22 hours ago, Ellafella said: His "something special happening here" isn't vacuous pr Clearly it isn’t Rooney in charge it’s just Craig Ramage in disguise ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 12 hours ago, Brammie Steve said: The way I heard things just before kick off Eric seemed to infer that others are waiting to take over at a bargain basement price. Surely if the right buyer comes along they will have excess cash for players and to entice Wayne to stay. Maybe I've still got my rose tinted specs on but we still have grounds for cautious optimism. It was after the game they made the comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 It’s Steele and Dawes opinion that without a takeover and that enabling investment Rooney would leave. He will get better offers IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 Season ticket money next season will be very significantly down because this seasons season ticket holders will be refunded or will carry on to next season. Very difficult situation without significant funding or investment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 12 hours ago, RamNut said: We do need some new players but under ffp even if the owner has the available funds, we’re not allowed to spend it (unless income exceeds costs by several millions per annum). we had wages >40m. Income @30m, so the financial landscape has to shift significantly before we can go on a bit of a spending spree. I sometimes wonder whether the managers understand this. Even Frank admitted he had no idea of the financial implications of ffp prior to his arrival. Furthermore do we really need major investment? apart from one or two obvious gaps, we have the majority of the players we need, but we are not making the most of what we have. How do you work that out. The best Academy players have had chances and it’s damn near relegated us before the senior players returned to bolster the 1st team under Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Rampage said: Apparently there are 150 EFL players out of contract at the end of this season to choose from. Should be quite a scramble. Is that unusual?. Only just over 6 per club. With average contract lengths I would expect it's fairly normal for this point in the season, with renewals being negotiated before the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-a-lama fa fa fa Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Floppy Sausage said: Who are out of contract, mostly because they are poo ? a few are. but powell (stoke) and mowatt (barnsley) are 2 players id take Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Floppy Sausage said: I think we will be looking at loans next season, regardless of takeover. The players available to Rooney should be a lot stronger than what was available in January. For example, if we can pick up players like Liam Delap, we will be looking good. Linked with Bournemouth. Not sure why he'd come back to a club he didn't want to be at and might not be that welcome after his behaviour in Citeh's U2 game with us most recently. Seems a bit of a bell to me even allowing for the fact he's young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Some very good players available. It's not beyond possibility to build a top 6 sqaud without spending anything on transfer fees. Mowatt out of contract in the summer , thought he played well against us on Wednesday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 53 minutes ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Linked with Bournemouth. Not sure why he'd come back to a club he didn't want to be at and might not be that welcome after his behaviour in Citeh's U2 game with us most recently. Seems a bit of a bell to me even allowing for the fact he's young. Ah, the terrible 2s. You expect bad behaviour at that age though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Curtains said: How do you work that out. The best Academy players have had chances and it’s damn near relegated us before the senior players returned to bolster the 1st team under Rooney. Ok? Last week you were singing the praises of Louie Watson and calling for him to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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