Ghost of Clough Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, Curtains said: Good post but will that get us to the Premiership riches if the takeover doesn’t go ahead . What I’m saying is the takeover is vital without promotion if MM wants to leave the club. Maybe I’m not making sense if so I’m sorry. I don’t want to detract from the Academy Short term Rooney has done well with the squad . It wasn’t my point originally it was Steele and Dawes point and they may be wrong . To sum up IMO MM wants to sell the club and maybe keep PP . He is trying to get new owners in. So far it hasn’t happened but I’m sure Mel and Wayne want it too . If we stay in the Championship without investment from a takeover MM will have to fund the club. We have players out of contract in the summer. The conundrum is trying to get promoted to Premier riches or stay as we are which is almost impossible because of Covid losses and no parachute payments. Now whatever happens with the takeover will I would imagine influence our position going forward regarding administrative stability. MM will always be respected by most Derby Fans IMO All the best to MM and the situation for Derby County going forward PS The appeal by the EFL is ongoing and FFP will influence what also happens going forward Compare our potential squad for next season with our last playoff campaign (18/19) and I don't think there would be a great deal of difference. Wilson being an obvious weak point, but we'd be stronger with Sibley and Ibe than with Bennett and Jozefzoon. Bielik also much better than Huddlestone so there's an improvement there. In my opinion, 4 players must be signed - 2CBs, AM and CF for us to be a top 6 squad (3rd CB would just be a bonus). A couple loans, and a couple of frees and we could be there without the spending and the takeover you think we must have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, RamNut said: GK: I’m not convinced by Marshall and he’s even older than Scott Carson, but I accept that finding a really good younger keeper isn’t necessarily the no1 priority. Focus on the CBs, AM/W and CF this season. The GK issue can be looked at in a years time when we can re-evaluate how close Foster is. 34 minutes ago, RamNut said: sibley doesn’t seem to feature much under Rooney and that’s unlikely to change imo. ibe - who knows - 6 months and still nowhere near? But we live in hope. If he’s still not fit by the end of the season then I would hope we can just get rid. Both good sub options though. I've written off Ibe for this season. Let him focus on getting ready for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Compare our potential squad for next season with our last playoff campaign (18/19) and I don't think there would be a great deal of difference. Wilson being an obvious weak point, but we'd be stronger with Sibley and Ibe than with Bennett and Jozefzoon. Bielik also much better than Huddlestone so there's an improvement there. In my opinion, 4 players must be signed - 2CBs, AM and CF for us to be a top 6 squad (3rd CB would just be a bonus). A couple loans, and a couple of frees and we could be there without the spending and the takeover you think we must have. Good research there mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Curtains said: It was after the game they made the comments Musta said it again because I only heard pre match discussion. Then heard the last twenty minutes, breathed a huge sigh of relief and switched off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Compare our potential squad for next season with our last playoff campaign (18/19) and I don't think there would be a great deal of difference. Wilson being an obvious weak point, but we'd be stronger with Sibley and Ibe than with Bennett and Jozefzoon. Bielik also much better than Huddlestone so there's an improvement there. In my opinion, 4 players must be signed - 2CBs, AM and CF for us to be a top 6 squad (3rd CB would just be a bonus). A couple loans, and a couple of frees and we could be there without the spending and the takeover you think we must have. Another way of looking at it for sure. Thanks for that so let’s see what happens going forward . Maybe Eric and Ed haven’t got it quite right regarding Rooney leaving if a takeover doesn’t happen I still see difficult times ahead though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted March 12, 2021 Author Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, Brammie Steve said: Musta said it again because I only heard pre match discussion. Then heard the last twenty minutes, breathed a huge sigh of relief and switched off! Let’s hope for a win tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Compare our potential squad for next season with our last playoff campaign (18/19) and I don't think there would be a great deal of difference. Wilson being an obvious weak point, but we'd be stronger with Sibley and Ibe than with Bennett and Jozefzoon. Bielik also much better than Huddlestone so there's an improvement there. In my opinion, 4 players must be signed - 2CBs, AM and CF for us to be a top 6 squad (3rd CB would just be a bonus). A couple loans, and a couple of frees and we could be there without the spending and the takeover you think we must have. The thing we miss that we had that season was genuine creativity from central midfield i.e. mason mount. Harry Wilson with his magic. We also had a bigger squad, a lot of experience, players who had been there and done it. We miss some of that too. But apart from that, you're right there isn't a great deal of difference. We just need some players in the summer. If a takeover happens then we'll be able to do that. There's no reason we can't challenge again next season. This notion that we're 'years away' from being that standard again is complete rubbish. It can all come together in one transfer window. We've seen it countless times before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 I wouldn’t think so, no. He agreed to become our manager under the expectation that Sheikh Khaled would shortly complete his takeover, and provide investment. That obviously hasn’t happened, so we’re stuck with Mel who won’t put any more funding into the club. Will Rooney want to work in such conditions? He may well choose to jump ship to a more ambitious club, if the opportunity arises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I wouldn’t think so, no. He agreed to become our manager under the expectation that Sheikh Khaled would shortly complete his takeover, and provide investment. That obviously hasn’t happened, so we’re stuck with Mel who won’t put any more funding into the club. Will Rooney want to work in such conditions? He may well choose to jump ship to a more ambitious club, if the opportunity arises. Surely he needs to prove himself a bit more first. He has done well, but he needs to get us challenging next season I think before other teams come knocking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Surely he needs to prove himself a bit more first. He has done well, but he needs to get us challenging next season I think before other teams come knocking.... If he keeps us up, he’ll have done enough to get another Championship team to take him on imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 4 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Compare our potential squad for next season with our last playoff campaign (18/19) and I don't think there would be a great deal of difference. Wilson being an obvious weak point, but we'd be stronger with Sibley and Ibe than with Bennett and Jozefzoon. Bielik also much better than Huddlestone so there's an improvement there. In my opinion, 4 players must be signed - 2CBs, AM and CF for us to be a top 6 squad (3rd CB would just be a bonus). A couple loans, and a couple of frees and we could be there without the spending and the takeover you think we must have. That team scraped into the play offs, even with a current England international, someone now playing by for Milan and a midfielder who scored for fun. Bielk probably won't be fit for the start of the season, we have to find not one but two centre backs. Ibe hasn't played for how many years and I'm not sure why the quality of players that currently don't look out of place in a bottom half league side would suddenly improve to be a top 6 one, but other than that, yes we are very close to that side ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, BIllyD said: I'm not sure why the quality of players that currently don't look out of place in a bottom half league side would suddenly improve to be a top 6 one, but other than that, yes we are very close to that side ? We've seen it happen countless times in the past. Barnsley and Reading are doing it this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: We've seen it happen countless times in the past. Barnsley and Reading are doing it this season We have to be fair, but you could see the potential, in Reading players at least, not sure about Barnsley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 57 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: If he keeps us up, he’ll have done enough to get another Championship team to take him on imo. I can’t see him moving to another Championship club.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: I can’t see him moving to another Championship club.... Oh stop it, please there must be other clubs closer to Manchester, more deserving. blackburn, preston, Huddersfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Surely he needs to prove himself a bit more first. He has done well, but he needs to get us challenging next season I think before other teams come knocking.... Not really if we are being honest. His name alone is going to carry a lot more weight than pretty much anything does here. If he keeps us up that will be proven enough for someone to gamble on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, brady1993 said: Not really if we are being honest. His name alone is going to carry a lot more weight than pretty much anything does here. If he keeps us up that will be proven enough for someone to gamble on him. Time will tell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Jimbo Ram said: I can’t see him moving to another Championship club.... I can, if we don’t have any more to spend. He’ll want to go somewhere with ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Sheffield Utd 36 miles, just over an hours steady drive through the Peak District to home,just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Foreveram said: Sheffield Utd 36 miles, just over an hours steady drive through the Peak District to home,just saying. Glad you put just saying at the end, makes all the difference..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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