Archied Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Eddie said: If Tesco Ashby is the barometer of public opinion, people think the pandemic is over. We dropped in to do a mini-shop on our way back from holiday a couple of hours ago, and counted 20 or so adults not wearing facemasks, and none of the three people entering the store in front of us took advantage of the sanitising station. I’m moving to Ashby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 53 minutes ago, Eddie said: Your masochism is noted for future reference. It was just an observation, and not an attempt to wind anybody up. The contrast between what we observed in Cornwall over the previous few days and our first stop following a 300 mile drive was quite striking. While on holiday we travelled extensively on public transport, went in bars, went in shops and it was quite a rarity to see people in crowded environments not wearing masks, not making at least a token gesture towards social distancing or not generally respecting others so we felt 'relatively safe'. The bars were still insisting upon the use of QR code check-in, little shops were still limiting numbers and so on. Ashby seemed to be a free-for-all, with people shouting at assistants because there were no bloody cucumbers, for goodness sake. The irony of the last part is that the two stout individuals giving the assistant a hard time looked as though they'd never seen a salad in the last 30 years. Perhaps they wanted the cucumber for the old bloke who just walked in in a mask which couldn’t cover his scowl and drown out the tutting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Leeds Ram said: I don't have a smartphone is my vaccine card sufficient for my vaccine passport? If you have had the jab they can track you.. Saw it on Twitter.. It’s why the second needle is bigger. Eddie, Leeds Ram and EtoileSportiveDeDerby 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 5 hours ago, TexasRam said: positive news UK coronavirus cases Last Thursday: 48,553 Yesterday: 39,906 Last Friday: 51,870 Today: 36,389 I don't get those figures. There are four or five places I keep an eye on , for the cases per 100,000 number. All of them have gone up very fast over the past 7 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eddie said: Ashby might be the Pole of Inconsiderate Stupidity Just out of interest did you check how many if any , all , or any number in between were exempt from wearing mask ? Willing to bet the answer is no and you will not have a clue what that says regards what you feel is acceptable behaviour to others??♂️ Edited July 23, 2021 by Archied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 1 minute ago, ketteringram said: I don't get those figures. There are four or five places I keep an eye on , for the cases per 100,000 number. All of them have gone up very fast over the past 7 days. Don’t know pal, these are the official UK numbers published Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 5 hours ago, David said: How do you not have a smartphone, these days that’s like admitting you don’t have a pair of lungs, especially at your age. Not one of these doing everything not to be tracked by the government are you? Nah, because I'm really badly dyspraxic I didn't bother as I struggle with touch screens and stuff ? It definitely marks me out as a bit of a weirdo though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Eddie said: The contrast between what we observed in Cornwall over the previous few days and our first stop following a 300 mile drive was quite striking. While on holiday we travelled extensively on public transport, went in bars, went in shops and it was quite a rarity to see people in crowded environments not wearing masks, not making at least a token gesture towards social distancing or not generally respecting others so we felt 'relatively safe'. The bars were still insisting upon the use of QR code check-in, little shops were still limiting numbers and so on. Ashby seemed to be a free-for-all, with people shouting at assistants because there were no bloody cucumbers, for goodness sake. The irony of the last part is that the two stout individuals giving the assistant a hard time looked as though they'd never seen a salad in the last 30 years. Of course I’m sure you didn’t mean YOU felt safe as opposed to you felt you were altruistically keeping them safe??,, sorry of course it’s a two way thing ,no selfishness at all Edited July 24, 2021 by Archied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 https://bird-group.org/bird-group-get-ivermectin-approved/ maxjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 28 minutes ago, Andrew3000 said: https://bird-group.org/bird-group-get-ivermectin-approved/ "EMA advises against use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 outside randomised clinical trial“ https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-advises-against-use-ivermectin-prevention-treatment-covid-19-outside-randomised-clinical-trials Basically the very high concentration required has other side effects on the lungs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 17 minutes ago, GboroRam said: "EMA advises against use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 outside randomised clinical trial“ https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-advises-against-use-ivermectin-prevention-treatment-covid-19-outside-randomised-clinical-trials Basically the very high concentration required has other side effects on the lungs. Ivermectin has has some success elsewhere in the world but have never really been studied properly - fortunately, it now is being so we'll have some more definitive results in the near future. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57570377 You can even sign up to join the trial if you want; https://www.principletrial.org/news/ivermectin-to-be-investigated-as-a-possible-treatment-for-covid-19-in-oxford2019s-principle-trial GboroRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, GboroRam said: "EMA advises against use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 outside randomised clinical trial“ https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-advises-against-use-ivermectin-prevention-treatment-covid-19-outside-randomised-clinical-trials Basically the very high concentration required has other side effects on the lungs. I'm not sure what is going on here, very contradictory reports. This is worth a listen. This researcher claims the meta-analysis is clear that it is safe and effective. Very odd. Edited July 24, 2021 by Andrew3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 57 minutes ago, GboroRam said: "EMA advises against use of ivermectin for the prevention or treatment of COVID-19 outside randomised clinical trial“ https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/ema-advises-against-use-ivermectin-prevention-treatment-covid-19-outside-randomised-clinical-trials Basically the very high concentration required has other side effects on the lungs. Also, bear in mind that there are different standards being applied to the use of the vaccine. It already seems to have a poor safety record in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 37 minutes ago, maxjam said: Ivermectin has has some success elsewhere in the world but have never really been studied properly - fortunately, it now is being so we'll have some more definitive results in the near future. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57570377 You can even sign up to join the trial if you want; https://www.principletrial.org/news/ivermectin-to-be-investigated-as-a-possible-treatment-for-covid-19-in-oxford2019s-principle-trial This is encouraging. We need to shift the focus to treatments and other preventative measures so that we have more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 12 hours ago, TexasRam said: Absolutely the next few weeks will be a good view of how things may be, fingers crossed ? Has "The next few weeks..." become the covid version of DCFC's "Next season..."? ariotofmyown and Eddie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 10 hours ago, ketteringram said: I don't get those figures. There are four or five places I keep an eye on , for the cases per 100,000 number. All of them have gone up very fast over the past 7 days. I suggested a while ago that people might delete the T&T app. Hey presto, no contact tracing, hey presto no new cases. Deleting the app in itself is not a huge problem (it was reported that some firms insist upon that) if the same people are regularly self-testing and taking the appropriate action. Archied 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 59 minutes ago, maxjam said: Ivermectin has has some success elsewhere in the world but have never really been studied properly - fortunately, it now is being so we'll have some more definitive results in the near future. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57570377 You can even sign up to join the trial if you want; https://www.principletrial.org/news/ivermectin-to-be-investigated-as-a-possible-treatment-for-covid-19-in-oxford2019s-principle-trial Has it? I don't that is proven at all. Indeed that is what the trial is for if you read the BBC article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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G STAR RAM Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 26 minutes ago, Eddie said: I suggested a while ago that people might delete the T&T app. Hey presto, no contact tracing, hey presto no new cases. Deleting the app in itself is not a huge problem (it was reported that some firms insist upon that) if the same people are regularly self-testing and taking the appropriate action. Appears your suggestions arent always correct, despite what you may believe! Also no contact tracing? Are you sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: Has "The next few weeks..." become the covid version of DCFC's "Next season..."? 48 hours surely. EtoileSportiveDeDerby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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