Mostyn6 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Millenniumram said: No, but it does make it worth a discussion. Discussion - yes. Overreaction - no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 59 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Discussion - yes. Overreaction - no I don’t think I’m overreacting really, I’m not that bothered! Just saying I’m not entirely certain it’s a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Millenniumram said: I don’t think I’m overreacting really, I’m not that bothered! Just saying I’m not entirely certain it’s a good thing. Which is fair enough I suppose, but based on what criteria? Data? Evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 If Wayne doesnt want him there from what we have seen so far I am sure he wouldnt be shy about saying so. If we beat Boro people will be saying its because of SM's coaching. If we lose it will be because SM crossed the line. We do like to create a drama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, CBRammette said: If Wayne doesnt want him there from what we have seen so far I am sure he wouldnt be shy about saying so. If we beat Boro people will be saying its because of SM's coaching. If we lose it will be because SM crossed the line. We do like to create a drama When you say "we" I am sure the vast majority aren't in that category but "we" know what you mean! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 42 minutes ago, angieram said: When you say "we" I am sure the vast majority aren't in that category but "we" know what you mean! ? It seemed politer to include myself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Man in coat standing on training ground in background of training photo. Must be coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, CBRammette said: If Wayne doesnt want him there from what we have seen so far I am sure he wouldnt be shy about saying so. If we beat Boro people will be saying its because of SM's coaching. If we lose it will be because SM crossed the line. We do like to create a drama I'm agreeing about the first part. If we win, credit to SM. If we don't I'll blame Rooney and some players. That's not drama, that's just unfair stupidity and a very biased preference. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinman Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I didn't realise that every time I watched a training session, I was actually involved in the coaching of the players involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 But Mac is Rooney's boss so he should be looking at the training program. Also, the Director of Football role will not be the same at all clubs, there will be differences from club to club. And of course, he's one hell of a coach too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 If he can pass on any advice to Wayne and the coaching staff so we can survive in this division I will not be bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: Which is fair enough I suppose, but based on what criteria? Data? Evidence? I just don’t feel that things like this are likely to work out. Feel free to come back to me and call me an idiot if everything is going swimmingly in a year or so’s time, but I’m fairly confident at least one of Rooney or McClaren will no longer be here by that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I just don’t feel that things like this are likely to work out. Feel free to come back to me and call me an idiot if everything is going swimmingly in a year or so’s time, but I’m fairly confident at least one of Rooney or McClaren will no longer be here by that point. I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, just that there’s no more basis for pessimism as there is for optimism. There’s no logical reason it couldn’t thrive as long as there are clear boundaries regarding who does what and who has final say on what. My gut feelings are that a) it’d definitely be a struggle if the two were strangers to each other, but SMc was WR’s international manager and would’ve coached him. And b) SMc is the kind of bloke who, based on his ambition to hold a directorial role, would say “ey Wazza, I’m here to help you, don’t let me tread on your toes, but don’t be scared to ask!”. I feel that in the photo the OP posted, SMc is just watching. He’s better served doing that than sitting at a desk in an office somewhere. Dont get hung up on his current job title too much either. Technical Advisor to me means exactly that. Advising on the way things should be done technically. That involves potentially recommending fitness regimes, training regimes, tactical practice, formation, recruitment planning. I think Petr Cech has same title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Perhaps it's just opinion.... Is that still allowed or has the data gestapo taken over? I know a climate change denier who refuses to believe that the effects could be severe because nobody has proven it with algebra to his satisfaction.... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: I’m not saying you’re right or wrong, just that there’s no more basis for pessimism as there is for optimism. There’s no logical reason it couldn’t thrive as long as there are clear boundaries regarding who does what and who has final say on what. My gut feelings are that a) it’d definitely be a struggle if the two were strangers to each other, but SMc was WR’s international manager and would’ve coached him. And b) SMc is the kind of bloke who, based on his ambition to hold a directorial role, would say “ey Wazza, I’m here to help you, don’t let me tread on your toes, but don’t be scared to ask!”. I feel that in the photo the OP posted, SMc is just watching. He’s better served doing that than sitting at a desk in an office somewhere. Dont get hung up on his current job title too much either. Technical Advisor to me means exactly that. Advising on the way things should be done technically. That involves potentially recommending fitness regimes, training regimes, tactical practice, formation, recruitment planning. I think Petr Cech has same title. Never said there wasn’t an argument to suggest it’s a good thing, that’s just not my opinion. For what it’s worth, I can see where you’re coming from, and I certainly have nothing against McClaren. I’m just not a fan of advisory roles like this full stop really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 I don't know what all the fuss is about, it was a cold morning he had he's coat on, He got caught short and was just waiting for clear short cut run across the pitch to the loo. End off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rab a dab doo said: I don't know what all the fuss is about, it was a cold morning he had he's coat on, He got caught short and was just waiting for clear short cut run across the pitch to the loo. End off. Absolute piffle! It was nowhere near cold enough for a coat! Maybe a fleece pullover at most! Whatever next, an bloody umbrella for a spit of rain? #weatherwuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 7 hours ago, ThePrisoner said: Man in coat standing on training ground in background of training photo. Must be coaching. Did he have binoculars with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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