Mucker1884 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 He's there again today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarterForTen Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: I don’t like the sort of blurred lines that it would entail. Keep the board and the coaching staff very much seperate imo. Unless McClaren isn’t actually doing the job he was brought in to do, which would appear strange, then he seems to have two different roles. He might well be capable of doing them both, but I’d rather him do one or the other. And out of the two, I’d rather him be coaching. Not sure how old you are but, guessing by your forum name, maybe 20 or 21? Shame if true, because you'd have been an ideal shop steward in a 1970's British Leyland plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Millenniumram said: I don’t like the sort of blurred lines that it would entail. Keep the board and the coaching staff very much seperate imo. Unless McClaren isn’t actually doing the job he was brought in to do, which would appear strange, then he seems to have two different roles. He might well be capable of doing them both, but I’d rather him do one or the other. And out of the two, I’d rather him be coaching. Always thought the Technical Director role was to provide the link between the board and the coaching staff. If so, it stands to reason it will include direct involvement with both elements of a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 So we see a photo of him standing well back from the players wearing a coat because it is cold. Must be coaching then. No possibility of him deciding to have a wander round the training ground, get some fresh air, enjoy watching players train etc. etc. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winktheram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 18 hours ago, Millenniumram said: Still doesn’t quite sit right with me that you appoint someone as technical director, effectively an advisor to the board, and then have him out there coaching. Feels like a conflict of interest to me. McClaren should be working separately from Rooney in his current role - in fact, he should almost be above him, helping to judge his performance. Doesn’t feel like he’d give a particularly unbias appraisal if he’s that close to him. Don’t get me wrong, I think McClaren is an excellent coach, and I’d be delighted to have him on Rooney’s staff. But if you want to do that, make him a coach, and remove his role with the board. Simple as that really. It's exactly what a technical director should be doing. Overseeing the training, offering advice etc. Don't know why it don't sit right, as long as Rooney is ok with it I aint worried. And if Rooney wasn't happy he'd say - not the sort of bloke to be shy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, bcnram said: So we see a photo of him standing well back from the players wearing a coat because it is cold. Must be coaching then. No possibility of him deciding to have a wander round the training ground, get some fresh air, enjoy watching players train etc. etc. ?? Isn’t he in goal ??? Waggers 1 v 1 practice session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Maybe left the Rotherham game early? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastdevonram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, hintonsboots said: Isn’t he in goal ??? Waggers 1 v 1 practice session. If it's waggers, there Is no need for a goalkeeper ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 hours ago, StarterForTen said: Not sure how old you are but, guessing by your forum name, maybe 20 or 21? Shame if true, because you'd have been an ideal shop steward in a 1970's British Leyland plant. 20, but clearly very old school ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 hours ago, Wolfie20 said: Always thought the Technical Director role was to provide the link between the board and the coaching staff. If so, it stands to reason it will include direct involvement with both elements of a club. That’s not the way I read it - I think it was described as “advisor to the board”. I would expect that to be around managerial appointments, recruitment and other major club decisions. Wouldn’t expect someone who appears to be at board level to be out on the training pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 hours ago, winktheram said: It's exactly what a technical director should be doing. Overseeing the training, offering advice etc. Don't know why it don't sit right, as long as Rooney is ok with it I aint worried. And if Rooney wasn't happy he'd say - not the sort of bloke to be shy. I’m sure Rooney doesn’t have a problem with it, but that’s not really my concern. I’m more worried about not keeping coaching and the board separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Millenniumram said: I’m sure Rooney doesn’t have a problem with it, but that’s not really my concern. I’m more worried about not keeping coaching and the board separate. Why? Why wouldn’t you want them aligned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, Mostyn6 said: Why? Why wouldn’t you want them aligned? I’d want them aligned a vision, but I don’t want directors coaching anymore than I want coaches directing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: That’s not the way I read it - I think it was described as “advisor to the board”. I would expect that to be around managerial appointments, recruitment and other major club decisions. Wouldn’t expect someone who appears to be at board level to be out on the training pitch. If you read the Clubs' statement when he joined, he assumes the role of advisor and Technical Director, the latter position to be confirmed on a permanent basis once the takeover is completed. So he is Technical Director, albeit temporary (in another 24-48 hours?). It's generally accepted that his strengths lie mainly in the coaching part of football - in his fledgling managerial career, Rooney is smart enough to tap into McClarens' experience and where better to utilise those skills than on the training pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 44 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: I’d want them aligned a vision, but I don’t want directors coaching anymore than I want coaches directing. Who said he’s coaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Wolfie20 said: If you read the Clubs' statement when he joined, he assumes the role of advisor and Technical Director, the latter position to be confirmed on a permanent basis once the takeover is completed. So he is Technical Director, albeit temporary (in another 24-48 hours?). It's generally accepted that his strengths lie mainly in the coaching part of football - in his fledgling managerial career, Rooney is smart enough to tap into McClarens' experience and where better to utilise those skills than on the training pitch. True, but it seems an odd combination to me. If he’s advising Rooney, why call him a technical director - surely there’s a better title out there than that? Makes it sound like he’s a director of football, what with advising the board as well. As I’ve said, I agree McClaren is best as a coach. I’d like to see that become his job title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 39 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Who said he’s coaching? That’s what this thread is about, is it not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Just now, Millenniumram said: That’s what this thread is about, is it not? Back on the coaching scene does not equal coaching. I was once on the indie scene, doesn’t make me Bez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 If he is back on the training ground helping it will be on Rooney's say so, amd if he is, then it is a very smart move from Rooney to get help from someone so experienced & known as an excellent coach. Hopefully he can get us firing up front like he did when he was in charge, Rooney has got the defence sorted so we need to score more goals now, what better combo of an attacking coach and Englands/Man Utds record goalscorer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 32 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Back on the coaching scene does not equal coaching. I was once on the indie scene, doesn’t make me Bez! No, but it does make it worth a discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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