Topram Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Right go on then who’s put a tenner on Rafa for him to come to 6/1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I notice Paul Cook on GSS today said he hoped it would be his last appearance , maybe he has a job lined up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 hours ago, TomTom92 said: Warnock not pulling up trees? This is a Middlesbrough team that nearly went down because they trusted a young manager wanting to play the right way. Warnocks just won manager of the month and has them competing at the right end of the table. As for Allardyce, apart from Newcastle spell I can’t see where he’s done a bad job. I acknowledge that some fans have a preferred style of playing which he doesn’t abide to. But personally I couldn’t care less if we’re winning matches. I’m also not bothered about out academy and developing players. Whilst I acknowledge that producing our own players would be beneficial I’d like to gamble that big Sam would improve the performance levels of some of the players in this squad, academy graduates or not. I respect anyone that doesn’t want him because he doesn’t fit their bill. But if anyone wants to say he’d be a bad appointment I’m afraid I must disagree. He’d get us up the table which is all I want right now. We should not be in a relegation battle with Wycombe, Coventry, Rotherham and Barnsley in the league. 2 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: sorry, I mean totally sorry, you've triggered me here. What an absolute load of empty nonsense. I have to challenge and attack what I see is a stupid post. I hope you are writing this to be provocative, in which case Bravo! Ignorant to suggest Allardyce plays long ball football, I can only assume you refuse to wathc teams he manages! Moronic to throw shade at Warnock, Middlesbrough were relegation battle last season (like us this) and they are now 12 points ahead of us in 7th place, 4 off top! Cardiff a couple of seasons before. Rotherham saved a season or two before that! Many promotions and KNOWLEDGE and ABILITY to get teams out of trouble and into the PL. Assets in Bird, Sibley and Knight? AND? Allardyce had Kevin Nolan in many of his teams, involved in the game all the time. To suggest neck ache is pure foolish baalocks! Stop being a drama queen. Rebuild? RUbbish again. Everyone thinks we need to buy more players to replace the ones we currently have who aren't competitive enough. You must have some warped sense of reality if you think building a team of youngsters is of any benefit without them winning games. If we are languishing through underachievement, they will want to move on anyway, so we gain nothing. Pointless nonsense with no real benefit. You mention 2012 has a different league? really? how so? although it was only a year before Clough was sacked, yet you want to emulate that? Weird. As for chop and change, I agree with some of this. But we need a new manager so change is neccesary. 2 hours ago, DCFC27 said: What a melon. We are currently bottom of the championship with 1 win in 11 games, our worst start since the premier league season. if Derby are offered big Sam, you have to take him this is his specialism, getting teams out of trouble, and he does it better than anyone else in the business. But no you’d rather give it some one that might give the kids more of a go and play more passing football. Give me strength. The kids will play, they have to we don’t have anyone else but Big Sam will have us winning enough games to get us up the table. If he does then we can review it in May. But don’t be a melon and pick the next manager on the kids and style of play being the crucial point. It’s not it’s survival. You are all misdiagnosing our situation. Yes, we are bottom of the league but only two points from safety with thirty six games to go. 2 points, 36 games. Are you really suggesting we need a proper relegation specialist in as soon as possible? If there was 10/15 games left to go, your posts and Allardyce would be appropriate. We are not in some desperate relegation scrap, we are an underperforming team that’s not got up and running this season due to mismanagement. Too many formation switches, too many injuries, obvious lack of fitness. Lacking confidence and an identity? Yes. Hopeless and talentless? No. There is a good team here that we shouldn’t chuck away after a bad start to the season. They need a manager that suits them and can get them playing attacking football just as much as we need a fresh set of eyes. It’s a team built to play attacking, passing football, why would we change philosophy yet again to facilitate a quick fix manager that will not have a shot at promotion this season and will never have the complete backing of the fanbase. FWIW Warnock came into an underachieving Boro team and got them to safety. They had TEN games left not THIRTY SIX. He now has them back where a club like Middlesborough usually is, in and around the top six probably not going up. Hardly pulling up trees. His teams when they go up are also inevitably crap. Yes a team playing Warnock’s style will have an opportunity to go up but for every Warnock team that is promoted out of this league there’s about 7 attacking teams promoted. This club has the potential, don’t sell us short and back us bringing in a manager whose main selling point is “survival specialist.” A manager is meant to be hired with years in mind, not months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Send the drone swarm to hover around Nigel Pearson's house. And then follow him if he goes anywhere. Just for a laugh. Go on Mel. You know you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelovebelow Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 What kind of football would a Paul Cook team play? I know he got a lot of clean sheets, but that's all I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 The next management team will already be on the Rams payroll, given that the cash situation at the club is dreadful at the moment, there is no way Mel is going to put a further liability on the balance sheet by paying a few million pounds for an outside manager. Evidently 10 EFL clubs are not going to be able to make payroll this month so splashing more millions on additional wage costs are just not going to happen. Rooney and Wassall it is then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Speaking as a senior Popsider who passed his sell-by date many moons since. Much as I admire Rafa Benitez and would like to see him manage Derby, what might the stress do to his general health. Is it really worth a few extra millions in his savings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 We are about to become the most talked about club in world football. Oh this is where the magical journey begins. Where’s that popcorn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Asheville Ram said: The next management team will already be on the Rams payroll, given that the cash situation at the club is dreadful at the moment, there is no way Mel is going to put a further liability on the balance sheet by paying a few million pounds for an outside manager. Evidently 10 EFL clubs are not going to be able to make payroll this month so splashing more millions on additional wage costs are just not going to happen. Rooney and Wassall it is then Mostly agree in that there's no way Mel is going to appoint a new pernanent manager if there's any likelihood of the takeover going through. If or when it does, this appointment is going to be the litmus test of the new owner's financial clout and ambition. Given four coaches are meant to be in charge for the next match (Rooney, Rosenior, Given, Walker) I don't see Darren Wassall getting a look in, short term. Which is a shame. I hope he hangs around and keeps doing the great job he's been doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Rafa now 4/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneBiblicalKazim Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 I’ve gotta admit I’ve really missed this poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, JustOneChrissyMartin said: Roberto Di Matteo is a weird one. He failed big time at Villa in his last job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, JustOneChrissyMartin said: Rafa now 4/1 Bookies have a sense of humour after all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 Just now, Andicis said: Roberto Di Matteo is a weird one. He failed big time at Villa in his last job. And that was over 4 years ago. Has he managed at all since then?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 1 minute ago, StaffsRam said: And that was over 4 years ago. Has he managed at all since then?! According to Wiki, not at all since then. He won the Champions League, but then completely flopped at Villa. Just a weird managerial career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC27 Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: You are all misdiagnosing our situation. Yes, we are bottom of the league but only two points from safety with thirty six games to go. 2 points, 36 games. Are you really suggesting we need a proper relegation specialist in as soon as possible? If there was 10/15 games left to go, your posts and Allardyce would be appropriate. We are not in some desperate relegation scrap, we are an underperforming team that’s not got up and running this season due to mismanagement. Too many formation switches, too many injuries, obvious lack of fitness. Lacking confidence and an identity? Yes. Hopeless and talentless? No. There is a good team here that we shouldn’t chuck away after a bad start to the season. They need a manager that suits them and can get them playing attacking football just as much as we need a fresh set of eyes. It’s a team built to play attacking, passing football, why would we change philosophy yet again to facilitate a quick fix manager that will not have a shot at promotion this season and will never have the complete backing of the fanbase. FWIW Warnock came into an underachieving Boro team and got them to safety. They had TEN games left not THIRTY SIX. He now has them back where a club like Middlesborough usually is, in and around the top six probably not going up. Hardly pulling up trees. His teams when they go up are also inevitably crap. Yes a team playing Warnock’s style will have an opportunity to go up but for every Warnock team that is promoted out of this league there’s about 7 attacking teams promoted. This club has the potential, don’t sell us short and back us bringing in a manager whose main selling point is “survival specialist.” A manager is meant to be hired with years in mind, not months. Don’t be a numpty. Ultimately we are bottom of the league you have to plan as if that won’t change and get someone in that can change it. The advantages with having more time is Big Sam once he does get us winning should be the manager to keep us winning and maybe get out of the league. Even better, he’d keep us there if we did get up. We all wish we could do it with a great style of play but currently we don’t have that luxury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 The Mail (I know - take with a pinch of salt) are saying Di Matteo, Howe, Brian McDermott (formerly of Reading), and Nigel Adkins are the 4 on our shortlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shang Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Andicis said: According to Wiki, not at all since then. He won the Champions League, but then completely flopped at Villa. Just a weird managerial career. Also ended badly at Schalke I vaguely remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted November 14, 2020 Share Posted November 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Andicis said: According to Wiki, not at all since then. He won the Champions League, but then completely flopped at Villa. Just a weird managerial career. Seems like he did well at MKD and WBA, and then obviously won the CL with Chelsea, but since then has struggled to achieve much of an impact anywhere. Think it would be a ‘no’ from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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