bucktwo Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 on this weeks facebook live Nico asked for the team set up with 3 at the back... here is my starter with no additional ins and outs Marshall Wisdom Te Wierik Clarke Bogle Bird Rooney Shinnie Sibley Waghorn Marriott Subs: Bielik Lawrence Knight Lowe Holmes Roos Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Marshall Wisdom Dutch Mike Clarke Shinnie/Bielik Bogle Rooney Bird Lowe Sibley/Marriott Waghorn Think we'd need the extra Midfielder of 352 or 3511 to make it work rather than 343 But I don't think we'll do it unless we're "improvising" in a match to achieve something specific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, bucktwo said: on this weeks facebook live Nico asked for the team set up with 3 at the back... Why? We won't be using it this season, with the expectation of a few mins here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I thought this was going to be some kind of task he was undertaking. Like he was being challenged to do some actual journalism and not lazy clickbait poo covered in adverts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Srg said: I thought this was going to be some kind of task he was undertaking. Like he was being challenged to do some actual journalism and not lazy clickbait poo covered in adverts. He's a good football journo. Times change and he's trying to do his job the best he can. If you want to pick on journo's at least make an effort and choose that twit from the Daily Fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, bucktwo said: on this weeks facebook live Nico asked for the team set up with 3 at the back... here is my starter with no additional ins and outs Marshall Wisdom Te Wierik Clarke Bogle Bird Rooney Shinnie Sibley Waghorn Marriott Subs: Bielik Lawrence Knight Lowe Holmes Roos Evans I'm not sure Rooney would suit being in a 4 like that, you'd more likely see him further forward in Sibley's position to find space for him I'd expect a partnership of Bird+Knight, Bird+Holmes or maybe Bird+Shinnie but that might like going forward. And Lowe would be LWB, lets not be silly now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I really don't get the obsession with a back 3 amongst certain posters on here. I don't understand how anyone can look at last season and think what we needed was to take an attacking player off and put on an extra centre half. Yeah yeah, I know it's not that simple, and the wing-backs will get forward more etc, but Bogle's looked pretty lost when he's played further forward, so I'm not convinced he'll just slot into a wingback role. He's far more effective when he has a winger to overlap IMO too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: He's a good football journo. Times change and he's trying to do his job the best he can. If you want to pick on journo's at least make an effort and choose that twit from the Daily Fail! Nah, he deserves it. He vehemently argues that it isn't clickbait, and at that point you lose all respect for yourself and your profession. When you're desperately dragging up players that were extremely tenuously linked with us once 18 months ago and still post stories about them to act as if we are still interested, or use phrases like "this Rams player..." in titles it's just straight up poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Marshall Twerk Blerk Clerk Bogle Rooney Lowe Knight Sibley Bird Lawrence Marriott Waghorn How many's that? Nah, it can't be done. We have too many players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black ('n' White) Sheep Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Marshall Wisdom, te Wierik, Clarke Bogle, Bird, Shinnie, Lowe Sibley Marriott, Waghorn In all seriousness, that isn't a bad team... However, after seeing parts of our friendlies so far, I can't see us going to 3 at the back as a regular thing... Maybe for the last 10 minutes of games if we need a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampant Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Marshall Wisdom Te Wierik Clarke Bogle Buchanan Rooney Bird Sibley Waghorn Marriott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaltRam Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Marshall Wisdom Te Wierik Clark Bogle Bird Lowe Sibley Lawrence Marriott Waghorn No Rooney? No Holmes? No Knight? No Bielik? We've got a decent squad with the emergence of these youngsters. Just not balanced. Need natural width, and a big centre forward with neat touch who's good back to goal to bring the runners into play. On a free ideally. Proven goalscorer at this level who knows the system. Damned if I can think of anyone who'd fit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Needlesh said: Marshall Bogle Wisdom Te Wierik Clark Lowe Bird Sibley Lawrence Marriott Waghorn What will actually happen if we tried that lineup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew3000 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 43 minutes ago, Srg said: I thought this was going to be some kind of task he was undertaking. Like he was being challenged to do some actual journalism and not lazy clickbait poo covered in adverts. Yes his challenge should be to find a worthwhile job . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Wisdom, te Wierik and Clarke are our best 3 CBs, but don't offer the right balance. Clarke should be the central CB, meaning Fozzy or Buchanan have to be the left sided CB. Rooney wouldn't suit a 4 man 'midfield' so you need an extra CM in there to balance things out, resulting in 352 as the only possibility. That leaves 1 CM and two CF positions to fill with Shinnie, Holmes, Knight, Sibley, Lawrence, Waghorn and Marriott to choose from. Sibley doesn't offer the balance required in midfield so becomes one of the CFs. Overall, 3 at the back doesn't allow us to field our best players. Marshall te Wierik Clarke Fozzy Bogle Holmes Bird Rooney Lowe Sibley Marriott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Disappointingly when I read the headline I thought it was going to be him seeing how far he could get with the optics challenge in his local Spoons before barfing his guts up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Marshall Te Wierik Bielik Clarke Bogle Bird Rooney Lowe Holmes Waghorn Lawrence Bench: Roos, Davies, Forsyth, Shinnie, Sibley, Whittaker, Marriott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Bobbins but I'm bored so... Marshall Wisdom Davies Clarke Bogle Bird Forsyth Rooney Sibley Lawrence Marriott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Hamer (only kidding) Marshall ^ TeWierik Bielik Clarke ^ ^ v ^ Bogle v Bird Lowe Sibley Rooney Lawrence Marriott So Bielik can come forward into midfield and the wingbacks drop back if you wanted to revert to a back four. Don't like leaving Wisdom out but he can step in if Dutch Mike, Bielik or Bogle are out. Similarly Waggy/Holmes/Knight/Trialist/Whittaker in for any of the front four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 hour ago, duncanjwitham said: I really don't get the obsession with a back 3 amongst certain posters on here. I don't understand how anyone can look at last season and think what we needed was to take an attacking player off and put on an extra centre half. Yeah yeah, I know it's not that simple, and the wing-backs will get forward more etc, but Bogle's looked pretty lost when he's played further forward, so I'm not convinced he'll just slot into a wingback role. He's far more effective when he has a winger to overlap IMO too. Agreed - My mate is constantly wanging on about this - Essentially he loves Wisdom and doesn't want to see him lose his place at CB so has decided 3 at the back is the future 1) We don't have enough CBs - Now Clarke is in we have 3 recognised CBs - One of them is 36 (?) so will probably be more of a bit-part player - We then have a converted RB and a DM who can play there - Plus another DM coming back from injury - And if desperate we can play Fozzy there again (who has been mostly a liability at CB) 2) We don't have enough strikers for 2 up front - I've heard arguments that we have Man Utd and England's all time lead goalscorer in the squad - But somehow I don't think Cocu or Rooney himself see him playing there - So (for me) we have 2 senior strikers Finally - On the basis that Cocuball seems to involve fluidity of movement/position at it's core - And when we're attacking a DM drops back in line with the CBs to allow our fullbacks to get forward - We essentially attack as a 3-5-2 (or maybe 3-3-4) anyway - Fluidity in attack but group pressing and organisation in defence seem to be the hallmarks of the way Cocu wants to play (which I like) which means the defensive formation is the one we should build our base on - The attacking formation is kinda just "3 at the back and everyone else just plays wherever makes sense at the time" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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