Day Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Curtains said: I really really hope I’ve been wrong all along. Wouldn’t be the first time . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, David said: Wouldn’t be the first time . . . Don't be mean to Curtains. He's hanging on in there......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Just now, Van der MoodHoover said: Don't be mean to Curtains. He's hanging on in there......? ......by a thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Just now, Wolfie20 said: ......by a thread? I set them up, you knock them in....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, therealhantsram said: No, any penalty is suspended pending appeal. No not if they lose 1st appeal which is inevitable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 This is the EFL. Epic fools licence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Curtains said: This is the EFL. Epic fools licence extra flaccid penises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I repeat again I expect no sanctions apart from being asked/ instructed to change how we value players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, David said: Wouldn’t be the first time . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowplay Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 The way the EFL go about things, starting to see the attraction of a Premier League 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Shadowplay said: The way the EFL go about things, starting to see the attraction of a Premier League 2 Breakaway League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roymac Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 With Boris' war on junk food advertising, I don't think the league can be sponsored by a brand of choccy biscuit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Tamworthram said: It may well be illegal but it is almost certainly NOT money laundering (unless Mel has some seriously dodgy business activities we’re not aware of). Rumour is he’s got a window round ,cash in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, Curtains said: Breakaway League 1 minute ago, Roymac said: With Boris' war on junk food advertising, I don't think the league can be sponsored by a brand of choccy biscuit... Don't take away his Breakaway idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: ......by a thread? Then I suggest you give him a ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 This is from the sports writer at a Yorkshire paper mainly about Sheffield Wednesday but also about us - not sure of his expertise/knowledge but is interesting reading Derby are also being charged for the way they account for players. Without getting too technical, they appear to be saying that at the end of a players' contract they could sell him for a fee which appears to be inconsistent with our understanding of the Bosman ruling. We also saw with Derby that they physically received the cash from the sale of the stadium whereas Wednesday didn't receive any money. They have this unusual scenario where it's being paid for over eight years. You wouldn't normally expect that to be the case for a property deal. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/sheffield-wednesday-finance-money-questions-18734944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, SamUltraRam said: Derby are also being charged for the way they account for players. Without getting too technical, they appear to be saying that at the end of a players' contract they could sell him for a fee which appears to be inconsistent with our understanding of the Bosman ruling. Can someone correct me if I’m wrong. We’re not saying a player has value at the end of contract, just that it isn’t a straight line depreciation. If we bought someone for £6m on a three year contract, you wouldn’t expect their value with one year left (if we were to sell) to be £2m. Their value drops to zero when Bosman comes into effect at the contract end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamUltraRam Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I've just realised that the Yorkshire paper spoke to Kieran Maguire. He's the one who reported us isn't he ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 39 minutes ago, Archied said: Rumour is he’s got a window round ,cash in hand Ah, that could explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 48 minutes ago, SamUltraRam said: This is from the sports writer at a Yorkshire paper mainly about Sheffield Wednesday but also about us - not sure of his expertise/knowledge but is interesting reading Derby are also being charged for the way they account for players. Without getting too technical, they appear to be saying that at the end of a players' contract they could sell him for a fee which appears to be inconsistent with our understanding of the Bosman ruling. We also saw with Derby that they physically received the cash from the sale of the stadium whereas Wednesday didn't receive any money. They have this unusual scenario where it's being paid for over eight years. You wouldn't normally expect that to be the case for a property deal. https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/sheffield-wednesday-finance-money-questions-18734944 I don’t profess to understand or know the details of how Derby apply amortisation of players but, if they do indeed assume a player still has a value once their contract has expired then that would be insane and should have been picked up the first time we did it. However, in my simple mind, surely this issue only applies once the contract has actually expired. So, for example, If Sibley’s contract is due to expire in June 2021, there would rightly be a value applied to his registration in the accounts year ending June 2020 but nil for the accounts submitted for June 2021. Presumably though, he would either have left or signed a new contract. Is the fuss all to do with how much we value a player in the final year of his contract? If it is to do with his value once his contract has expired we should never have done it or been allowed to. I’m confused. Actually, is Sibley a bad example as it only applies to players we have bought (I don't know)? Even so, the principle feels like it should be the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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