RadioactiveWaste Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: Same for Stoke and Southampton. I'm struggling to remember a stadium in the Championship with better facilities. Mr Plopodoplous on the Bristol forum thinks it's a "laugh" to consider Derby's facilities to be better than theirs ?♂️ Of course Mr Messenger considers our stadium to be "bog standard" so you have to feel sorry for almost every club in the country, bar a handful in the Prem, who have stadium which must be described as worse than bog standard. Haven't Bristol been doing up their ground quite recently? Seriously, it's strange how many "modern" grounds have different levels of facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Haven't Bristol been doing up their ground quite recently? Seriously, it's strange how many "modern" grounds have different levels of facilities. Are the facilities in the “away” section of a different standard to the home ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I've been to Swansea and Cardiff's new stadiums too, and honestly they're not a patch on Pride Park either, despite being much more modern. Cardiff's looks like a building site inside, with them having to put loads of banners and flags up around the rafters to hide all the exposed steel and support structures. Swansea's just looks like a smaller version of ours, but they've done nowhere near as good a job of hiding the concourses and walkways so there's big swathes of concrete visible all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Just now, Reggie Greenwood said: Are the facilities in here “away” section different to home ? No idea in Bristol's case. I know at pride park they're the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 1 minute ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Haven't Bristol been doing up their ground quite recently? Seriously, it's strange how many "modern" grounds have different levels of facilities. Wiki says completed prior to the 16/17 season. I last went down there in Lampard's season and found it lacking in a number of areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 'MFC' come out of this really badly. It seems that the EFL entered into proceedings 'UPON MFC confirming irrevocably that, in the event that the EFL commences disciplinary proceedings against [the Club] in respect of breach of the P&S Rules in (at least) the 2017/18 season, it will not pursue in the Arbitration Proceedings any claim' Having been bullied by 'MFC', the EFL, knowing they could not win the case, initiated proceedings against DCFC. I hope 'MFC' don't get away scot free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Isn't it calculated every 6 months? Contract extension in the first 6 months = full year of amortisation now split over new contract length Contract extension in final 6 months = half year of amortisation split over new contract length Yes you could be right. But given that the players left prior to the accounts being signed off, unless we got fees for them, there would be sufficient evidence available that the year end value should be £0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Wiki says completed prior to the 16/17 season. I last went down there in Lampard's season and found it lacking in a number of areas. The away stand wasnt done up The three new stands are quite nice tbf, better than what they had at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I can't quite get my head round the fact that Steve Gibson genuinely seems to believe that the combined cost of Britt Assombalonga and George Saville is worth more than Pride Park Stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: 'MFC' come out of this really badly. It seems that the EFL entered into proceedings 'UPON MFC confirming irrevocably that, in the event that the EFL commences disciplinary proceedings against [the Club] in respect of breach of the P&S Rules in (at least) the 2017/18 season, it will not pursue in the Arbitration Proceedings any claim' Having been bullied by 'MFC', the EFL, knowing they could not win the case, initiated proceedings against DCFC. I hope 'MFC' don't get away scot free. Going to cost them 50K costs minimum plus the directors sarnies might taste a bit odd on their next visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Going to cost them 50K costs minimum plus the directors sarnies might taste a bit odd on their next visit I hope Mel sends them a nice Christmas card this year. An aerial shot of Pride Park, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DcFc Dyycheee Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Simon Jordan talking about Derby / EFL on TalkSport this morning. Around 3 min mark. https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1598518800/1598520600/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 15 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: No idea in Bristol's case. I know at pride park they're the same. The away stand at Ashton Gate is absolute dog ? for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 So that's the Tangible Assets page from 'Boro's last set of filed accounts. It's reasonable to assume the bulk of that land and buildings is the stadium. The training ground is included too, but I'm going to assume it's a relatively small part. So Gibson values his own stadium at ~£50m from a revaluation done in 2018 too, and based on the same methodology as us (DRC), but thinks ours is only worth £22m. The major differences between our actual value and his appear to be the rebuild cost (£86m for them, £100m-£117m for us), and the amount of depreciation (~45% for them, ~30% for us). So allowing for Pride Park being a slightly newer, and having had a lot of work done on it (upgrades and maintenance), there's really not that much difference between the valuations. (Usual disclaimer about me not being an accountant etc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, DcFc Dyycheee said: Simon Jordan talking about Derby / EFL on TalkSport this morning. Around 3 min mark. https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1598518800/1598520600/ Makes some good points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 18 minutes ago, DcFc Dyycheee said: Simon Jordan talking about Derby / EFL on TalkSport this morning. Around 3 min mark. https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1598518800/1598520600/ Great analysis by Simon Jordan. Well worth a listen and in a nutshell describes EFL Agendas as discussing the colour of the linesman’s flag whilst Clubs sink. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BriggRam Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 24 minutes ago, DcFc Dyycheee said: Simon Jordan talking about Derby / EFL on TalkSport this morning. Around 3 min mark. https://talksport.com/radio/listen-again/1598518800/1598520600/ nailed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ellafella said: Great analysis by Simon Jordan. Well worth a listen and in a nutshell describes EFL Agendas as discussing the colour of the linesman’s flag whilst Clubs sink. ? He's right on the EFL being rubbish and the fact the clubs vote for the rules they want etc, but i thought he got almost all of the technical details wrong. We didn't inflate the value of Pride Park by including future expansion etc, and he was completely wrong on how our amortisation policy works. It's frustrating because fans from other clubs listen to this stuff and come to wrong conclusions about what we've done and how we've 'got away with it' etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, duncanjwitham said: He's right on the EFL being rubbish and the fact the clubs vote for the rules they want etc, but i thought he got almost all of the technical details wrong. We didn't inflate the value of Pride Park by including future expansion etc, and he was completely wrong on how our amortisation policy works. It's frustrating because fans from other clubs listen to this stuff and come to wrong conclusions about what we've done and how we've 'got away with it' etc. With all due respect @duncanjwithamwithout wishing to start a debate I do think he did explain things pretty well. We don’t use the “straight line” amortisation method and selling the stadium is a legitimate way to attract profit under the present rules. He also explained clearly why Wendies got hammered and we didn’t. I’ll let others listen and they’ll form their own views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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