Tamworthram Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: This geordies are the best supporters is absolute bobbins . I went there in 1991 when they were struggling in Division 2 .I could count the people in the ground . There average attendance that year was about 14,000. You'll never meet a more fickle bunch of fans- maybe West Ham . Sunderland and Man City are much better supported clubs in real money . This is a useful site for finding average attendances. https://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/englandcontent.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 27, 2020 Share Posted May 27, 2020 Chelsea and Man City are two historical underachievers. Consistently top teams in the country without winning much. I doubt many would argue against Man Utd, Arsenal, Liverpool and Everton being amongst the biggest in the country. Those clubs have spent a considerable amount of time in the top division and have earned more points than any other club in the country. Villa, Man City, Spurs, Chelsea, Newcastle and Sunderland round off the top 10. Sounds about right in terms of club size. You then have a large group of clubs who’re bottom half Prem or top 6 Championship - West Brom, Blackburn, Bolton, Wednesday, Wolves, Derby, Sheff Utd, West Ham, Boro, Leeds, Burnley, Forest, Stoke, Birmingham, Leicester, Preston. The likes of Preston, Burnley and Bolton spending large chunks of the last 50 years in the 3rd division, and few considering them to be ‘big’ clubs compared to others not mentioned. All time average league positions can be found here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 This is interesting reading, we are 19. http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengtot.htm Total attendance from 1889 - 2019 (Top 10) 1Manchester United106.249.505 2Arsenal FC91.994.049 3Liverpool FC91.193.659 4Everton FC84.586.713 5Newcastle United FC84.221.745 6Tottenham Hotspur FC80.386.408 7Manchester City FC79.756.882 8Chelsea FC78.799.161 9Aston Villa FC77.234.651 10Sunderland AFC68.678.608 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 On 26/05/2020 at 10:09, ramsbottom said: I think that's the single most insulting thing anyone has ever said to me... Your not married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will the Ram Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 On 27/05/2020 at 12:14, Theres’s Only Wan Chope said: But Man City and Chelsea are constantly at the top now and they get big attendances. They seem to be permanent fixtures at the top for the last decade or more. I would not class Leeds as bigger than either now. Man City struggle to sell out their stadium. When I watch them on TV I regularly see empty blue seats. They also struggled to sell some of the top priced tickets for the EFL Cup final this season. The huge clubs sell out regardless. I also don’t regard Chelsea as a really big club. Money has certainly helped them. They were pretty average before Zola & Vialli showed up too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 5 hours ago, Will the Ram said: Man City struggle to sell out their stadium. When I watch them on TV I regularly see empty blue seats. They also struggled to sell some of the top priced tickets for the EFL Cup final this season. The huge clubs sell out regardless. I also don’t regard Chelsea as a really big club. Money has certainly helped them. They were pretty average before Zola & Vialli showed up too. Went to Stamford Bridge in 1983 when we won 3-1 (we were poor they were worse) and massive Chelsea had an attendance of less than 9K if i recall correctly. To be fair though don't think our crowd was much above 8k when we played at the BBG in the reverse fixture. Different times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Went to Stamford Bridge in 1983 when we won 3-1 (we were poor they were worse) and massive Chelsea had an attendance of less than 9K if i recall correctly. To be fair though don't think our crowd was much above 8k when we played at the BBG in the reverse fixture. Different times. I was there in the shed end and there was plenty of room to social distance. The Derby fans were a small distant cluster in the middle section of that massive terrace they had where the matthew Harding stand now is. Stamford Bridge still had a speedway track round the pitch then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbuDerbyDave Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 On 28/05/2020 at 07:09, wyschtonram said: This is interesting reading, we are 19. http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn/nav/attnengtot.htm Total attendance from 1889 - 2019 (Top 10) 1Manchester United106.249.505 2Arsenal FC91.994.049 3Liverpool FC91.193.659 4Everton FC84.586.713 5Newcastle United FC84.221.745 6Tottenham Hotspur FC80.386.408 7Manchester City FC79.756.882 8Chelsea FC78.799.161 9Aston Villa FC77.234.651 10Sunderland AFC68.678.608 How the hell are the blue noses above us !!! they can’t fill there ground other than when they are playing the side near them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted May 29, 2020 Share Posted May 29, 2020 30 minutes ago, AbuDerbyDave said: How the hell are the blue noses above us !!! they can’t fill there ground other than when they are playing the side near them I think its subjective to go back that far . Leeds for example weren't a league club till the 20's. Birmingham joined the league in 1892 . Derbys average attendance can only be judged over the same time period as every club over the same number of years, alongside average years in a division , catchment area and density of population etc. That may make it worse or better, but the one weighted average won't tell you that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 On 29/05/2020 at 04:24, Will the Ram said: Man City struggle to sell out their stadium. When I watch them on TV I regularly see empty blue seats. They also struggled to sell some of the top priced tickets for the EFL Cup final this season. The huge clubs sell out regardless. I also don’t regard Chelsea as a really big club. Money has certainly helped them. They were pretty average before Zola & Vialli showed up too. Their stadium is massive and they get 50,000 ish on average don’t they? I’m not saying they’re as big as Man U or Liverpool but they are definitely an established big club with very big support. And the longer they stay at the top, the more fans they will attract. Size doesn’t stay the same over time. Clubs gain support with success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 On 26/05/2020 at 08:54, Van Wolfie said: I've probably missed this but what is the EFL's justification for not ruling on our case back in March?. I realise some delay could be due to CV but 2 months and counting?. Lockdown was only 5 days or so before the decision was due. Maybe someone should send them a link to Zoom. Surely they would use Teams ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Angry Ram said: Surely they would use Teams ? Do you think they're clever enough to see the connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted May 31, 2020 Share Posted May 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said: Do you think they're clever enough to see the connection? They would probably look for ways to charge the developers of breaking some law that they just invented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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