Coneheadjohn Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, Mick Brolly said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 We got ourselves into this mess by massively over spending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby blood Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 minute ago, RamNut said: We got ourselves into this mess by massively over spending. If we have over spent, there is no proof of this yet. Then only 1 man to blame, the owner he gives the OK to all this, also paying off managers was not a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Steve How Hard? said: Agreed and you are quite right with your other points too. Hopefully the EFL will be also be held accountable for their mismanagement of the whole situation. The fact they've appealed against the Birmingham review smacks of a witch hunt to me. Where does the appealing end if they can't accept an independent review? Isn't this the second time the EFL have appealed the decision? 35 minutes ago, Derby blood said: If we have over spent, there is no proof of this yet. Then only 1 man to blame, the owner he gives the OK to all this, also paying off managers was not a good idea. I'm guessing he means overspending in relation to our income rather than in relation to P&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Andicis said: Thought I'd start a new thread on this rather than drag up the other one, but if mods want to merge the threads that's okay. Barnsley co-owner and Luton chief executive quoted speaking about it. Seems like sour grapes to me, but I hope this doesn't push them to punish us. All nonsense from a desperate press with nothing to publish. Even if all 3 are found guilty, there will be no punishment this season anyway. All 3 clubs will appeal. Any punishment will take place next season. File under #ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 51 minutes ago, RamNut said: We got ourselves into this mess by massively over spending. Hardly breaking news and doesn’t mean we’ve actually broken any rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 57 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Hardly breaking news and doesn’t mean we’ve actually broken any rules. stop blaming other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, therealhantsram said: All nonsense from a desperate press with nothing to publish. Even if all 3 are found guilty, there will be no punishment this season anyway. All 3 clubs will appeal. Any punishment will take place next season. File under #ignore. isn't this like renting a house and then complaining that the neighbours have sold theirs because they actually bought theirs. All 3 of their grounds are owned by the council, 2 of them used to own them previously. Independent valuation was used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, RamNut said: stop blaming other clubs. Strange comment. How am I am blaming other clubs? I'm just talking about whether we've broken EFL rules. I never mention any other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Isn't this the second time the EFL have appealed the decision? I'm not sure if it is second time they've appealed but if so that confounds my believe that it's a witch hunt. Surely once it's been independently reviewed then that should be the end of the matter. I think it's time for a radical overhaul of the current EFL setup. Step forward Mr Morris the new head honcho of the EF-Mel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 EFL annual christmas party if they succeed with their charges against Derby and the other clubs. EFL annual christmas party if they fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: Strange comment. How am I am blaming other clubs? I'm just talking about whether we've broken EFL rules. I never mention any other clubs. Not you personally, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, RamNut said: Not you personally, Ok. So you didn't mean to reply to my comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 4 hours ago, jono said: The legal profession will find a loophole. They need the work ? They're the only winners. Like crows and looters after a battle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 What happened ever happened 'to innocent until 'proven' guilty'. Or should we now redefine this as guilty, by 'say so', innuendo, and suspicion. But then again when have facts or proofs been really needed to print or sell newspapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 So Cardiff City the club that are known as Cheatdiff for not paying debts and reneging on the Sala deal after the tragic accident. Yeh we can really take lessons from that beacon of light football club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: So Cardiff City the club that are known as Cheatdiff for not paying debts and reneging on the Sala deal after the tragic accident. Yeh we can really take lessons from that beacon of light football club The same Cardiff who couldn't even post a profit in there Premier League season despite income jumping up by £90m - £0.8m loss after making a profit on sales of £2.1m. The same Cardiff who only passed FFP/P&S in the period ending 2018 because they used a 'loophole' reducing their losses by £29.3m. This was for "Unrealised surplus on revaluation of stadium". Without this, I believe they would have failed FFP/P&S by roughly £25m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I blame gibson for this and if efl dock us points I think mel should sue efl and gibson as well for damages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandram Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 I post very rarely but this definitely deserves a reply has anyone noticed it’s read live or Nottingham live all articles made up to stir up reactions. as someone else said it’s sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted May 21, 2020 Share Posted May 21, 2020 1 hour ago, B4ev6is said: I blame gibson for this and if efl dock us points I think mel should sue efl and gibson as well for damages. If we get docked points what could we sue Gibson for exactly? We’d of been found guilty. The EFL in my opinion are running scared of making a decision as it would have to be 100% water tight. Seems we have had guidance from the EFL along the years and that will ultimately bite them on the arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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