rammieib Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 What is the logical reason for today being the deadline and not June 30th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, rammieib said: What is the logical reason for today being the deadline and not June 30th? Logic? EFL? You're entering the realms of fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Holding out for midnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Are we going to get a resurgence of #toddyfacts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 40 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Chrissie isn't your age range Angie you cougar....? Haha, given my favourite Derby players ever are Bruce Rioch, Charlie George, Colin Todd, ooh Mark Wright and our Chris Martin, I hope you realise I'm more interested in the football than the looks. None of them are exactly oil paintings! If I was picking players based on their looks I'd go for Fikayo Tomori or Bradley Johnson. Or gorgeous George, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, angieram said: Haha, given my favourite Derby players ever are Bruce Rioch, Charlie George, Colin Todd, ooh Mark Wright and our Chris Martin, I hope you realise I'm more interested in the football than the looks. None of them are exactly oil paintings! If I was picking players based on their looks I'd go for Fikayo Tomori or Bradley Johnson. Or gorgeous George, of course! Haven't you forgotten someone? Hey good looking, you're always number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I cannot fathom why we wouldn’t agree a deal with CM for another couple of seasons. There are no obvious issues with his fitness; his form recently is as good as it ever was goals- and assists-wise. We don’t have a lot of depth in the striking role certainly not in the class of CM and we look a better team with CM in the game. Doesn’t make logical sense. I can only think the Club’s initial offer was their final offer and CM has an alternative. Birmingham I guess is commutable. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Ellafella said: Birmingham I guess is commutable I was laughed at when I suggested Birmingham, what with Nigel in the running for the manager's job and all. Not that they have pots of money but who does? You would've thought if he were staying they'd have gotten it over the line today so he could have kept playing this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, IslandExile said: I was laughed at when I suggested Birmingham, what with Nigel in the running for the manager's job and all. You would've thought if he were staying they'd have gotten it over the line today so he could have kept playing this season. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he finds his way there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ellafella said: I cannot fathom why we wouldn’t agree a deal with CM for another couple of seasons. There are no obvious issues with his fitness; his form recently is as good as it ever was goals- and assists-wise. We don’t have a lot of depth in the striking role certainly not in the class of CM and we look a better team with CM in the game. Doesn’t make logical sense. I can only think the Club’s initial offer was their final offer and CM has an alternative. Birmingham I guess is commutable. ? I think it's more simple than that. We've got absolutely no idea when finances will return to pre Covid levels, as it was we're losing around £20m a year, based on £13m allowable losses for P&S regulations, £5m cost of a Cat1 academy and give or take another £1m a year in infrastructure such as the ground and training facility. With the loss of ticket, sponsorship and broadcast revenue that must be another sizable chunk just in the last 3 months, nevermind what's to come in the future, and for how long, how on earth can you extend contracts for well paid older players under such circumstances, especially when we've no idea what a future market fair rate for such players will be? Even a short term extension on the same terms may be a tough ask, say he's on 20k a week, and we extend until the end of the season. We'd be committing another £120k to cover the season, plus £80k for a months severance pay at the end of the contract. Say the same for Hudds, and suddenly you're looking at half a million for a few extra weeks once employer contributions such as tax and pensions are added. That's a hell of a layout for a club sitting in 12th place with its finances on a cliff edge. I've nothing against Martin, far from it he's my favourite player and has been since he joined, if I was in charge he'd be staying regardless and first on the teamsheet. But football must and will change to reflect the circumstances, I'd offer him the same terms to see the season out, I think we may be breaking rules to offer him less, and ask him to show me his best offer from elsewhere before making a counter offer to extend beyond this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 23, 2020 Author Share Posted June 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said: I think it's more simple than that. We've got absolutely no idea when finances will return to pre Covid levels, as it was..... I fear you're right. Damn, I hate that virus. (clearly there are more important reasons to hate the virus but even so... I hope you all know what I mean) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Ellafella said: It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he finds his way there. No. If we're shaking the piggy bank for change I think there trying to find 50p down the sofa. The reason Clough is in the running for the job would be reasonably low wages and a manager who can manage a reasonably low budget squad . No 15k a week signings for them or us I expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 I just woke up, startled and screaming ? , from a nightmare.... He won't be joining that team from down the road who play in red or that dirty team from up the M1, will he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 8 hours ago, reverendo de duivel said: I think it's more simple than that. We've got absolutely no idea when finances will return to pre Covid levels... Well yes, but you wouldn't think that one (or two if it's Hudds as well) player to the end of this season would kill us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 9 hours ago, reverendo de duivel said: I think it's more simple than that. We've got absolutely no idea when finances will return to pre Covid levels, as it was we're losing around £20m a year, based on £13m allowable losses for P&S regulations, £5m cost of a Cat1 academy and give or take another £1m a year in infrastructure such as the ground and training facility. With the loss of ticket, sponsorship and broadcast revenue that must be another sizable chunk just in the last 3 months, nevermind what's to come in the future, and for how long, how on earth can you extend contracts for well paid older players under such circumstances, especially when we've no idea what a future market fair rate for such players will be? Even a short term extension on the same terms may be a tough ask, say he's on 20k a week, and we extend until the end of the season. We'd be committing another £120k to cover the season, plus £80k for a months severance pay at the end of the contract. Say the same for Hudds, and suddenly you're looking at half a million for a few extra weeks once employer contributions such as tax and pensions are added. That's a hell of a layout for a club sitting in 12th place with its finances on a cliff edge. I've nothing against Martin, far from it he's my favourite player and has been since he joined, if I was in charge he'd be staying regardless and first on the teamsheet. But football must and will change to reflect the circumstances, I'd offer him the same terms to see the season out, I think we may be breaking rules to offer him less, and ask him to show me his best offer from elsewhere before making a counter offer to extend beyond this season. Sadly true - but we will need a replacement where as with Huddlestone which just don’t need a replacement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RoyMac5 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Quote Chris Martin Talks have been ongoing in recent weeks between the club and representatives of Chris Martin. A temporary agreement has been reached to extend the player’s contract until the end of the current season. The club and the player’s representatives remain in discussion relating to a longer-term solution. https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2020/06/contracts-update-june-2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 Yay!!https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2020/06/contracts-update-june-2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted June 24, 2020 Author Share Posted June 24, 2020 Just now, RoyMac5 said: https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2020/06/contracts-update-june-2020 Ah beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 1 minute ago, IslandExile said: Ah beat me to it I can understand why Chrissy would turn down a years contract when Forsyth's has been extended until summer 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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