Leeds Ram Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 35 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Ah OK - then you've slightly misunderstood. I agree - that's the point. Infinite economic growth cannot sustain 11bn people if we don't change the current way of doing things I was trying to make the point that governments AND people both need to make changes, and XR is the start of that realisation (regardless of whether people agree with their methods) I mean the extra people largely aren't going to be in particularly economically developed countries, Europe for instance will quickly see a population decline as will Japan. Those countries actually do need managed economic growth to deal with the extra people living there. XR isn't the start of that realisation though. Everything I've heard from them is not about implementing sufficient technological changes to adapt to this issue but rather a combo of scaremongering and simply saying we need to stop using planes and cars and stop having kids for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Sexydadbod said: My mental health is much better when I’m surrounded by greenery too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SillyBilly Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Highgate said: I'm sure that's highly likely, I definitely have plenty of things that can't be considered environmentally friendly. It's difficult for consumers in all honesty. I guess it's the crude oil derivatives that are burned that are of the greatest concern regarding global warming, although the others no doubt require GHG release throughout their product life-cycle. Ahh product life-cycles, get this...we have to have a PPC (Pollution Prevention Control) permit (and audited by the local authority against it) due to our high flash solvent usage. Each year we have to work out how much solvent we buy, how much we process and how much we sold within finished products. The disparity between bought and sold is what we "lose" to the atmosphere, in theory....Has to be less than 3% lost as a condition of the permit. The ridiculous thing is as soon as we supply it to the end user...the whole lot goes into the atmosphere....the whole premise of a solvent based product is the solvent flashes off and leaves behind the "active" substance(s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: I conclude this the end of our long feud! You were a worthy adversary. I’m not going to be your human shield mind if Greta comes to eat us ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 As for the broccoli guy, he’s definitely a WUM, I refuse to believe there are people out there like him. His whole interview with GMB had to be parody. On the topic of cannibalism previously, wouldn’t he be committing a vegetable kind of cannibalism every time he eats a piece of broccoli if he identifies as a broccoli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Sexydadbod said: As for the broccoli guy, he’s definitely a WUM, I refuse to believe there are people out there like him. His whole interview with GMB had to be parody. On the topic of cannibalism previously, wouldn’t he be committing a vegetable kind of cannibalism every time he eats a piece of broccoli if he identifies as a broccoli? Not even sure why GMB would even give him airtime. Surely they must have checked his credentials first and asked why exactly he wanted to appear on the show? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 (Electric) trains yesterday, buses today. I thought public transport was the way forwards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, maxjam said: (Electric) trains yesterday, buses today. I thought public transport was the way forwards... It does sound a bit counterintuitive. Could cause disruption in ways that don't affect mass transport, which presumably they support? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Start with the fashion industry, that would be a good step in the right direction. 10% of the global carbon food print comes from here, be it synthetic crops that destroy waterways or the 'fashion shows' that happen somewhere in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 hours ago, McRamFan said: Start with the fashion industry, that would be a good step in the right direction. 10% of the global carbon food print comes from here, be it synthetic crops that destroy waterways or the 'fashion shows' that happen somewhere in the world. Oi them fashion shows are my bread and butter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Angry Ram said: Oi them fashion shows are my bread and butter. Ive seen a picture of you in your shorts and I doubt fashion is at the forefront of your daily to do list...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 5 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: Ive seen a picture of you in your shorts and I doubt fashion is at the forefront of your daily to do list...? It’s a new look. Very in at the moment so not reached the norf yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Angry Ram said: Oi them fashion shows are my bread and butter. That is fine, as long as the industry does something to off set the damage it does. I travel a lot, especially this time of year, my company has introduced a lot of carbon off setting initiatives, which covers everything from work vans, company cars, flights, work canteens and even which hotels we can stay with. We also have/are altered manufacturing to be greener, which has raised costs a little, however has improved end product, and customers have openly welcomed it. Unfortunately, probably due to manufacturers greed, the fashion industry has turned itself into a disposable industry. Wear once, throw it away or it is so poorly manufactured that it dissolves in the wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 23 hours ago, maxjam said: (Electric) trains yesterday, buses today. I thought public transport was the way forwards... Hope those daft Bamfords do not stop the emergancy services getting through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwash_Ram Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 trigger alert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Bwash_Ram said: trigger alert Nice photo opportunity there of him riding his bike with Greta. Meanwhile... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7672069/Arnold-Schwarzenegger-72-drives-new-100K-Pinzgauer-military-vehicle-California.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 there were an odd bunch up in chesterfield this morning at 10 past 8 where the big roundabout is that connects a61 and a617 today looked like rate muppets wa doin some sort of ritual dance lol https://www.peakfm.co.uk/news/local/extinction-rebellion-to-demonstrate-at-busy-chesterfield-roundabout/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 35 minutes ago, Squid said: there were an odd bunch up in chesterfield this morning at 10 past 8 where the big roundabout is that connects a61 and a617 today looked like rate muppets wa doin some sort of ritual dance lol https://www.peakfm.co.uk/news/local/extinction-rebellion-to-demonstrate-at-busy-chesterfield-roundabout/ You have to take your hat off, them using their hard earned annual leave to do this and the demonstrations in London. I am of course assuming they are all in employment and debunking the myth that protesters only protest to avoid working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Squid said: there were an odd bunch up in chesterfield this morning at 10 past 8 where the big roundabout is that connects a61 and a617 today looked like rate muppets wa doin some sort of ritual dance lol https://www.peakfm.co.uk/news/local/extinction-rebellion-to-demonstrate-at-busy-chesterfield-roundabout/ You're welcome to them.. Tossers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Whatever about the protesters and whether they are effectively helping or damaging their own objectives, outdoor air pollution alone (as distinct from climate change) kills 4,200,000 people around the world each year according to the World Health Organization. It's an enormous problem that gets very little coverage in proportion to it's dreadful death toll. Imagine the media coverage and the response from governments if ISIS were killing 4,200,000 people each year. Because it's effects are gradual and almost invisible everybody feels comfortable ignoring it. Millions have died as a result. More than 90% of the world has little choice but to live in areas where the air quality is below the scientifically accepted safety standards but yet it never seems to be a major issue at general election time anywhere. Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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