Comrade 86 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Given a free run Brexit would have been done 9 months ago. Yeah, those pesky Tories sabotaging Brexit eh, shocker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Yeah, those pesky Tories sabotaging Brexit eh, shocker! The Labour mans hypocrisy ha ha lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: It's quite amusing watching Brexiter heads exploding all over the internet though. Seems like while G star has a crystal ball and sees everything coming well in advance, many others don't and didn't. Meanwhile, could Boris' gaffes result in a hung parliament? He seems to be doing his very best to balls up what was a gimme a couple of weeks back. Maybe that's why he's taken to hiding in fridges rather than taking interviews he'd promised to give... I'd get a squidgy ball or a punch bag tomorrow if you think there is any chance of a hung parliament. Closer than ever are the headlines in the Daily Mail. Aka, we are making sure you are arsed to vote in the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 8 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: It's quite amusing watching Brexiter heads exploding all over the internet though. Seems like while G star has a crystal ball and sees everything coming well in advance, many others don't and didn't. Meanwhile, could Boris' gaffes result in a hung parliament? He seems to be doing his very best to balls up what was a gimme a couple of weeks back. Maybe that's why he's taken to hiding in fridges rather than taking interviews he'd promised to give... Was it the same crystal ball that you used to point out that Conservative voters have been duped because we wont have left the EU by 31st January? 6 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Yeah, those pesky Tories sabotaging Brexit eh, shocker! Yes, plenty of Conservative politicians I hold responsible for it along with other parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Norman said: I'd get a squidgy ball or a punch bag tomorrow if you think there is any chance of a hung parliament. Closer than ever are the headlines in the Daily Mail. Aka, we are making sure you are arsed to vote in the rain. Oh I think it's done and dusted but I am having a good chuckle over Boris' unwitting attempts to throw it all away. He really is an utter buffoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Was it the same crystal ball that you used to point out that Conservative voters have been duped because we wont have left the EU by 31st January? Nah mate, The Independent innit. That and t'internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Oh I think it's done and dusted but I am having a good chuckle over Boris' unwitting attempts to throw it all away. He really is an utter buffoon. This from the man who thinks Corbyn and McDonald and Sturgeon are the dream team. More like in your dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said: Oh I think it's done and dusted but I am having a good chuckle over Boris' unwitting attempts to throw it all away. He really is an utter buffoon. It does really show what the public think of labour if indeed Boris does get in. I agree he doesn’t come across as the good PM material, which says a lot for the alternatives if he is considered the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, Curtains said: This from the man who thinks Corbyn and McDonald and Sturgeon are the dream team. More like in your dreams I wouldn’t trust Corbyn to run my bath. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, AdamRam said: It does really show what the public think of labour if indeed Boris does get in. I agree he doesn’t come across as the good PM material, which says a lot for the alternatives if he is considered the best. It would seem so. Shame really. 4 minutes ago, Van Gritters said: I wouldn’t trust Corbyn to run my bath. ? You're about the 30th person to crack that particular 'funny'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Nope so I can exchange ideas and maybe listen to his side of the argument...you should try it sometime... I'm very interested to hear when he thinks context should and shouldn't be applied to racist comments. LOL - you only have to go back one page to see me discussing and then agreeing with MaxJam on a particular issue. Meanwhile you continually go out of your way to disagree with whatever I say! In terms of your question - context should be a consideration yes, but as a subjective measure it rather depends on who is assessing the context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 And if the BBC's Laura Kuensberg gets away with this then it will certainly put to bed any arguments over whether the BBC political coverage is biased towards the tories or not https://evolvepolitics.com/bbcs-laura-kuenssberg-accused-of-breaking-electoral-law-after-revealing-confidential-postal-vote-information/ She has unambiguously broken the law here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, SchtivePesley said: LOL - you only have to go back one page to see me discussing and then agreeing with MaxJam on a particular issue. Meanwhile you continually go out of your way to disagree with whatever I say! In terms of your question - context should be a consideration yes, but as a subjective measure it rather depends on who is assessing the context. Because on the whole I generally disagree with your political views and outlook on life. I'm afraid context is too much of a grey area when it comes to racism. If something is racist for one its racist for all. What are your views on some of the things that Dianne Abbot has said? If you arent aware if any of the things she has said I will post them up later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: And if the BBC's Laura Kuensberg gets away with this then it will certainly put to bed any arguments over whether the BBC political coverage is biased towards the tories or not https://evolvepolitics.com/bbcs-laura-kuenssberg-accused-of-breaking-electoral-law-after-revealing-confidential-postal-vote-information/ She has unambiguously broken the law here In which case she should be made to disclose the identities of the figures from within both parties who have given her the information as they have also broken the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 BBC and kuenssberg could be putting out fake info here. I don’t think they would know about the postal votes just as they won’t know about turnout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: And if the BBC's Laura Kuensberg gets away with this then it will certainly put to bed any arguments over whether the BBC political coverage is biased towards the tories or not https://evolvepolitics.com/bbcs-laura-kuenssberg-accused-of-breaking-electoral-law-after-revealing-confidential-postal-vote-information/ She has unambiguously broken the law here Ok Bris. Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 48 minutes ago, Van Gritters said: I wouldn’t trust Corbyn to run my bath. ? Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell, McCluskey and Sturgeon. Yep, the uk economy and way of life could possibly be trusted to these people. omfg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, TimRam said: Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell, McCluskey and Sturgeon. Yep, the uk economy and way of life could possibly be trusted to these people. omfg Are they really that much worse than Bojo, Raab, Patel, Hancock and Goves? Genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I'm still a bit undecided about my vote direction this coming Thursday. I've obviously taken into consideration what I consider to be the following swaying points on the two main parties. On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh. And on the other hand.. Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing. Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna. Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney. Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament. Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson. Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly. Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane. Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists. Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS. Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview. Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time. Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview. Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths. Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants. Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers. Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain. Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant. Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists. Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing. Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey. Didn’t support IRA ceasefire. Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“. Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list. Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“. Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist. Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP. Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag. Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun. Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker. Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“. Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime. Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS. Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria. Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted. Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela. Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“. Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader. Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria. Opposed shoot to kill. Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC. Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects. Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS. Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel. Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK. Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”. Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”. Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”. Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich. Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal. Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”. Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC. Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO. Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times. Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad. Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah. Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda. Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS. Received endorsement from Hamas. Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani. Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS. Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel. Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage. Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers. Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today. Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir. Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers. Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel. Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group. Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg. Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group. Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings. Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops. Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”. Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj. Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”. Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer. Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta. Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen. Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences. Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services. Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel. Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John. Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”. Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible. Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks. Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”. Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain. Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime. Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic. Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”. Voted against banning support for the IRA. Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles. Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11. Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group. Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism. Voted against banning al-Qaeda. Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror. Voted against control orders. Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism. So it’s a tricky one really ♂ Not my words found it on tinterweb but someone doesn't like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, King Kevin said: Not my words found it on tinterweb but someone doesn't like him Must be true then, if you found it on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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