maxjam Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: Even John Major is saying duck the Tories, at least in seats in which Tory rebels are standing. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-general-election-campaign-john-major-conservatives-vote-a9235436.html And several Labour ex-Ministers say vote Tory for Brexit/anti-semitic reasons; https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/07/thursday-evening-news-bulletin-vote-tory-say-ex-labour-mps-remain/ https://www.expressandstar.com/news/politics/general-election-2019/2019/11/07/vote-tory-to-stop-corbyn-says-ian-austin-as-ex-labour-mp-quits-parliament-2/ https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10446264/labour-vote-tory-gisela-stuart-boris-johnson/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50662945 Weirdest election in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Corbyn is definitely not an arch remainer. He is Wants 2 million EU migrants to vote in new referendum on Brexit https://www.itv.com/news/2019-12-05/johnson-writes-to-corbyn-over-plan-to-fiddle-second-brexit-referendum/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Curtains said: He is Wants 2 million EU migrants to vote in new referendum on Brexit https://www.itv.com/news/2019-12-05/johnson-writes-to-corbyn-over-plan-to-fiddle-second-brexit-referendum/ Corbyn, as a socialist, is a natural Eurosceptic. I feel that he's been pushed towards a Remainer stance by his party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ram for All Seasons Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Curtains said: He’s a loser is John. Arch remainer just like zjeremy John Major came along when the Tories needed a more or less normal human being after the horror of Thatcher. They have now reverted to type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 18 minutes ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: Even John Major is saying duck the Tories, at least in seats in which Tory rebels are standing. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-general-election-campaign-john-major-conservatives-vote-a9235436.html His view doesn't really matter, his management of the economy was absolutely disastrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ram for All Seasons Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: Corbyn, as a socialist, is a natural Eurosceptic. I feel that he's been pushed towards a pro-Remain stance by his party. Corbyn was strongly influenced by Tony Benn and Peter Shore in the 1970s. The world has moved on since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 14 hours ago, i-Ram said: Unfortunately true. Can’t believe our electoral choice is Bojo or Jez. I wouldn’t let either run my bath. Choice wise, feels like the Christmas turkey dinner has been ruined, and we are now being offered a piece of hairy brie or a half eaten pasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Cory the new Foot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: Corbyn was strongly influenced by Tony Benn and Peter Shore in the 1970s. The world has moved on since then. Perhaps, but he's certainly not an 'arch Remainer'. You only have to look at his lacklustre campaigning in 2016 to see that. I'd argue he's a Eurosceptic who would rather stay in and reform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Curtains said: DJ Michael Foot in the house … He looks like a rapper scratchin', and someone has photoshopped out the record player …. Ah sed a hip hop, a hiphophip, ah sed ahiphophiphophip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 31 minutes ago, maxjam said: One clip sounds like its had the audio cleaned up, the other sounds like its been slightly edited to muddy the word imo. Anyway, Channel 4 have responded Lefties on twitter are raging that we've all been brainwashed by the facist right-wing media. So just another day then. Was that John Snow of Channel 4 apologising the same John Snow that said ???? the Tories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Ram for All Seasons Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Curtains said: Cory the new Foot I heard him speak in Hyde Park in the Early 1980s. Best public speaker I have ever heard by a mile. The right-wing press were more concerned with his looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 minute ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: I heard him speak in Hyde Park in the Early 1980s. Best public speaker I have ever heard by a mile. The right-wing press were more concerned with his looks. Better than Corbyn that’s for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Tory candidate Sally-Ann Hart defending her earlier comments that people with learning disabilities should be paid less than the minimum wage, because they don't understand money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Curtains said: He’s a loser is John. Arch remainer just like zjeremy It his opinion he feels strongly about it, like many others. I am sure those enjoying the peace in Northern Ireland don't consider him a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, ramit said: Tory candidate Sally-Ann Hart defending her earlier comments that people with learning disabilities should be paid less than the minimum wage, because they don't understand money. She says people with learning disabilities dont understand money...perhaps she needs to understand the concept of slave labour. What an horrendous thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: John Major came along when the Tories needed a more or less normal human being after the horror of Thatcher. They have now reverted to type. Think the alternative of either Callaghan, Foot or Kinnock would have been worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 35 minutes ago, Paul71 said: She says people with learning disabilities dont understand money...perhaps she needs to understand the concept of slave labour. What an horrendous thing to say. It is a deeply insensitive thing to say - but sadly there are plenty of Tory voters who will be nodding along and agreeing Same with the Talent/Colour thing. It doesn't actually matter which he said. Plenty of Tory voters nodding along when they thought he said colour. It's called playing to the crowd - straight out the Trump/Bannon playbook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: It is a deeply insensitive thing to say - but sadly there are plenty of Tory voters who will be nodding along and agreeing Same with the Talent/Colour thing. It doesn't actually matter which he said. Plenty of Tory voters nodding along when they thought he said colour. It's called playing to the crowd - straight out the Trump/Bannon playbook I guess so, but you get the same with labour supporters. Never seen one criticise dianne abbott for the things she has said Blinkered views on both sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 1 hour ago, ramit said: Tory candidate Sally-Ann Hart defending her earlier comments that people with learning disabilities should be paid less than the minimum wage, because they don't understand money. That's not what happened, though, is it. The article she originally shared was about "Why people with learning difficulties should be allowed to work for less than the minimum wage". It doesn't say that they should have to work for less than minimum wage. It says they should be able to. i.e. Their choice, if money is not their main incentive for going to work. I haven't read the full article and have no intention of doing so. It's just my fact checking chip going off again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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