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G STAR RAM

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1 hour ago, jono said:

Really, I was in Zara with Mrs Jono the other day and at least 3 floor staff were none natural English speakers and Aldi on Burton Road .. staff looked about 50/50. Pierre victoire always has a large coterie of bright cheery young Eastern Europeans. What is your definition of immigrant ? 

Oh God, please dont tell me you've just assumed they are Eastern European?

Incoming attacks from McRamFan and SchtivePesley in 5-4-3-2-1

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Van der MoodHoover

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8 hours ago, Van Gritters said:

On the other side I have seen a lot of waste in the pre contractor days and unruly workforce and unions trying to pull all sorts of stunts. I can’t say I was a fan of that either.

Management, done properly and with rigour, is extremely hard work.

And implementing rigorous management practices where none have existed before is harder still.

Outsourcing gave the appearance of easy solutions. Used extensively in my industry (financial services). Only now we all realise that it is not a panacea. And to properly manage an outsourced relationship, now that the regulator is enforcing rigorous standards is exposing the flaws in the assumption that justifies the model.

Hence you get a new kind of waste. 

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jono

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7 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Oh God, please dont tell me you've just assumed they are Eastern European?

Incoming attacks from McRamFan and SchtivePesley in 5-4-3-2-1

Lol .. no assumption, being a direct, curious sort of bloke and loving accents and language I just ask 

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Stive Pesley

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2 hours ago, Paul71 said:

If not then any increase in costs will surely put the prices up for then end users and potentially negate any increase in wages?

It can't be as simple as wages going up and thats it?

Stop focusing on the small things and focus on his main point. Fewer immigrants. 

 

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Comrade 86

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The House of Representatives is pushing ahead with plans to impeach President Donald Trump. The House was moving forward to draft articles of impeachment, a milestone moment and only the fourth time in US history that Congress has tried to remove a president.

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-process-of-impeachment-has-moved-to-next-stage-pelosi-says-11878824

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G STAR RAM

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14 minutes ago, 86 Schmokes & a Pancake said:

This is even sillier than you're 'Corbyn is a liar because Donald Trump is not' post! 

Have a lie down mate. You'll get your Tory government, don't worry! ?

I've always thought nearly all politicians are liars, goes with the territory. 

I thought it was Labour voters that were really keen on honesty and integrity in the run up to this General Election?

Funny that they dont seem so keen to discuss it all of a sudden.

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23 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1213498/piers-morgan-general-election-news-jeremy-corbyn-queens-speech-piers-morgan

Oh dear oh dear!

 

He was probably just to busy trying not to be anti-semitic or working out how he could save the average family £7k a year to to realise that morning had slipped into afternoon by the time he sat down to watch it ?

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2 hours ago, Uptherams said:

People would rather have higher wages than a vastly bigger state and population. More freedom and choice in society. Making decisions for themselves. 

Speak for yourself.

I'd rather take a lower wage, and know the most vulnerable, needy and disadvantaged of the society I live in get to enjoy at least the basic standard of living that the 5th largest economy in the world could easily support.

Near on a decade of Tory rule, and what progress has been made under the small state mantra? 

Rising levels of homelessness, disabled people treated like second class subjects and refused the benefits they're entitled to on the say so of a private company's healthcare assessments, stopping much needed help only for the large majority to be overturned on appeal, months later and when some have been driven to suicide by the delay.

Every single NHS target missed over multiple years, whether waiting times in A&E, referral to a specialist, start of cancer treatment or even how long you'll wait for an ambulance.

Far less doctors, nurses and GP's than was promised, and certainly far less than needed.

The privatised Probation system, which required multiple bailouts before even the government gave up the ghost and began bringing it back in house, but not before it allowed convicted criminals back into society with minimal checks on whether the individual was safe, supported and ready to be released.

The dismantling of the legal aid system, which means amongst other things Dominic Raab can tell a Norfolk couple they'll have to fund the pursuit of the American serviceman's wife who killed their son by running him down while on the wrong side of the road, that they'll have to chase justice at their own cost.

Justice is still accessible, as long as you can afford it, if not tough.

Still, the growth of foodbanks shows not everything is going backwards.

Part One rant over!

 

 

 

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Uptherams

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1 minute ago, reverendo de duivel said:

Speak for yourself.

Part One rant over!

 

 

 

No, just stating what most people prefer. By all means, what's stopping you from being charitable. Why should the government force you to be more charitable.

Rant, exactly. All you do with passages like that, is turn people away because while they may want to be more 'progressive' they don't want to align themselves with and cede power and control, and raise a platform for people who clearly have a deeper motive. Because it always get's hijacked by people who want a complete overhaul of the foundations of our society. 

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Comrade 86

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Just now, G STAR RAM said:

I've always thought nearly all politicians are liars, goes with the territory. 

I thought it was Labour voters that were really keen on honesty and integrity in the run up to this General Election?

Funny that they dont seem so keen to discuss it all of a sudden.

So I'm back off ignore again already.

Lady doth protest too much, I reckon.

 

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Comrade 86

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21 minutes ago, maxjam said:

He was probably just to busy trying not to be anti-semitic or working out how he could save the average family £7k a year to to realise that morning had slipped into afternoon by the time he sat down to watch it ?

And maybe Boris was too busy being 'virile' to notice the difference between 50,000 and 30,000 nurses. Or to be certain whether he's building 6 hospitals or 40. Or that he'd forgotten to include his social care plan in his manifesto. Or that Andrew Neil has left him 60 voicemails. He was doubtless equally preoccupied when he lied to the Queen herself about his reasons for proroguing Parliament.

Oh dear, oh dear! 

Easy this game, innit!

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jono

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Can we rename this thread 

Team mudslinging and selective deafness league 2019 ? 
 

who’s in your team and what stats have they got ? Player ratings ? Any injuries ? Moans about the ref ?

can we have BAR ( BS and rhetoric ) 
 

 

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