BaaLocks Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 The Bielsa press conference was like the closing scene of a Luther episode where the serial killer is going "you think I only did that, let me show you what I've actually been up to all this time". He's extremely proud of his work and he wanted us all to know it was rather more than a bloke in the bushes trying to work out if Wilson was still injured. I actually don't believe this idea that they watched every match for a year, four hours on each one. I get the point he's thorough but unless he has a team of interns it just isn't possible to be doing 200 research a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, rynny said: The replies to this tweet (from a paradoy account) says different. ?????????????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, SaintRam said: ?????????????????????????????????????? There are so many replies that are hilarious. It's brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Not sure if this has been shared but BBC Sport have gathered the thoughts of other managers on Bielsa's presentation. This pretty much sums it up: "To get a PowerPoint presentation put together about stuff that's pretty basic - and then the furore that's gone with it - is quite funny to people in football," Preston North End manager Alex Neil told BBC Radio Lancashire. "I just think it's bizarre. "The general public and media think we turn up, play five-a-sides and then go home. So when you do get exposed to it and get a taste of it, all of a sudden it seems ground-breaking. "Everybody else in football is looking at it thinking 'yeah, we do the same'." Full article: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/46878655 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewe Ram Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 I thought Leeds chairman apologised to Mel. Strange concept to be apologising for doing nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Ewe Ram said: I thought Leeds chairman apologised to Mel. Strange concept to be apologising for doing nothing wrong. He did, he's only got 22 other awkward non apology phone calls to make now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Andicis said: Can't argue with the first paragraph, but no way he's done anywhere close to this. Ranieri getting Leicester to win the Prem was nothing short of a miracle. It wasn't too far beyond the realms of possibility for Leeds to be challenging for top 2, let's not forget, Leeds aren't actually up yet. This is very true. Yes they are the best team in the league currently. However I am surprised with the relative size of their squad, which is fairly small by all accounts (a Bielsa trait apparently) that they haven't begun to burn themselves out. A few injuries and another 20 odd games could change their status at the top. A good friend of mine (Leeds supporter) is also fearful of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vidukasbox Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: This is very true. Yes they are the best team in the league currently. However I am surprised with the relative size of their squad, which is fairly small by all accounts (a Bielsa trait apparently) that they haven't begun to burn themselves out. A few injuries and another 20 odd games could change their status at the top. A good friend of mine (Leeds supporter) is also fearful of this. We've had a ridiculous injury list all season. We're getting players back for the running and we'll look stronger. Our record signing Bamford has hardly kicked a ball for us all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, vidukasbox said: We've had a ridiculous injury list all season. We're getting players back for the running and we'll look stronger. Our record signing Bamford has hardly kicked a ball for us all season. I wasn't knocking it, in fact I have been impressed that they have maintained the intensity. I just think it might get you in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 A reasonable assessment: http://www.espn.com/soccer/blog/marcottis-musings/62/post/3753303/marcelo-bielsa-upstaged-frank-lampard-in-spy-gate-and-added-to-his-sizable-coaching-legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Jonathan Wilson nails it imo: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/17/marceo-bielsa-spygate-powerpoint-leeds-united Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lambchop said: A reasonable assessment: http://www.espn.com/soccer/blog/marcottis-musings/62/post/3753303/marcelo-bielsa-upstaged-frank-lampard-in-spy-gate-and-added-to-his-sizable-coaching-legend Italian journalist well that’s says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Curtains said: Italian journalist well that’s says it all. Racist comment and that says it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Lambchop said: Racist comment and that says it all. Juventus. DCFC https://thesetpieces.com/features/how-close-did-clough-come-to-conquering-europe-with-derby/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Lambchop said: Racist comment and that says it all. Italy a race? not sure many of them recognise Italy as a country never mind wanting to be associated with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Suggesting the potential presence of journalistic bias based on the writer sharing a nationality with the target of the piece (who's currently in and working in a foreign country) is not racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Suggesting the potential presence of journalistic bias based on the writer sharing a nationality with the target of the piece (who's currently in and working in a foreign country) is not racism. Implying that all Johnny Foreigners are cheats is, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Lambchop said: A reasonable assessment: http://www.espn.com/soccer/blog/marcottis-musings/62/post/3753303/marcelo-bielsa-upstaged-frank-lampard-in-spy-gate-and-added-to-his-sizable-coaching-legend Bielsa "I think I am Stupid". Sounds about right if he thinks spying is acceptable. On a serious note, I don't think anyone has doubted his attention to detail, depth of analysis undertaken, his knowledge of the game, etc... Purely, he shouldn't be spying on other teams. Quote Bielsa says he'll be respectful of the "cultural norms" and won't do this again Seems to suggest he knows he was in the wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Lambchop said: Implying that all Johnny Foreigners are cheats is, however. I'll take back my defense of Curtains if you can quote a post of his saying that foreigners are cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, SaintRam said: I'll take back my defense of Curtains if you can quote a post of his saying that foreigners are cheats. It doesn't need spelling out, and I'm not being drawn back into that sort of argument on this forum. I posted the two articles because I thought they provided an informed and balanced response to a lot of the nonsense posted in this thread. It is sadly telling that the first response was from someone dismissing one because the writer is foreign. I should have known better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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