Sexydadbod Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I don’t know if anyone else feels this way but I’ve been very disappointed with him in the last few games after a good pre season and all the reviews about him by Hull and Liverpool fans. He’s all left foot , seems very weak and fragile and doesn’t seem particularly quick. It seems to be leaving us very unbalanced on the right hand side because Wilson keeps wanting to come inside on his left foot and Wisdom doesn’t provide anything offensively. However, he’s a talented player so I don’t want to give up on him. That leads me onto my next point. I’m watching Arsenal v Man City and a player who is very similar to Harry Wilson in stature and attributes, Bernardo Silva, is playing on the right side of a 3 man midfield and he’s been fantastic. I wonder if it would be worth giving Wilson a try in a similar position and the same position that Saiz played for Leeds yesterday? Wilson appears to be blessed with his technique and has plenty of workrate. With players like Wilson, you want them influencing the game by being creative and the best way to do this is by playing him in the middle of the pitch rather than isolated on the wing, just like Saiz did for Leeds. If I recall correctly, Wilson played in midfield in one of the pre season games and did a fine job there. This would allow us to play Jozefzoon on the right wing and would give the team better balance as his pace would give us an option to run in behind opposition full backs. Wisdom then wouldn’t have to worry about contributing to anything offensively. TLDR: I propose playing Wilson in midfield where his creative ability would be put to more use alongside Mount and a defensive midfielder. This would then allow Jozefzoon to play on right wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 He hasn’t had a great time, but he needs time to bed himself in. Likewise, I’ve been disappointed with Mount so far. Wilson’s decision making on the ball was very poor yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Although his defending (one clearance apart) was poor and his decision-making dubious, I thought some of his skill and interplay with Mount was incredibly exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 games..........just 2 games..........not even time to build a raft or grow a beard and 2 folk above are already dissapointed with 2 of our new young players..........fans today no patience.....expect, and want and need everything now. Wilson!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Inverurie Ram said: 2 games..........just 2 games..........not even time to build a raft or grow a beard and 2 folk above are already dissapointed with 2 of our new young players..........fans today no patience.....expect, and want and need everything now. Wilson!!!!!!! Beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, McLovin said: I don’t know if anyone else feels this way but I’ve been very disappointed with him in the last few games after a good pre season and all the reviews about him by Hull and Liverpool fans. He’s all left foot , seems very weak and fragile and doesn’t seem particularly quick. It seems to be leaving us very unbalanced on the right hand side because Wilson keeps wanting to come inside on his left foot and Wisdom doesn’t provide anything offensively. However, he’s a talented player so I don’t want to give up on him. Hello Harry Hi Mum How is it going Harry? You know Mum, still settling in to the new area, and getting used to my new friends. Been quite a few changes here, and we are learning to play in a different way by the gaffer. Is Mr Lampard being supportive Harry? Yeah he is Mum, he’s a really nice guy and he knows that it will take a little while for me to settle, indeed all of us new lads here. That’s nice Harry. Yeah Mum, and there’s this really nice guy on the Derby Forum who doesn’t want to give up on me. That’s really nice isn’t it Harry. Yeah Mum, really thoughtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Give him time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I never understand the immediate cries of ‘GIVE HIM TIME’. There’s some weird train of thought that points can’t be made just because it’s early into a tenure. McLovin’s made constructive points about how we could get Wilson to flourish. In fact, Lampard himself has played Wilson on the inside right of a midfield three this very pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyWanKenobi Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 He's not done great in the 2 games he's played. He's clearly a total flop and not only should we send him back but we should bill Liverpool for sending him to us. While we're at it, let's sack Frank Lampard, put a horses head in Keoghs bed and bring back Joke Buxton. Joke Buxton was an autocorrect on my phone, but it amused me so it stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamRam Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Playing this system if the front man does not get hold of the ball then the wide players and midfielders will have a difficult time. We know from under SM how fundamental both Martin and GT were to his system, It was the first time MW had played with these players having only arrived last week, Ledley was hauled off at HT. Its going to take time, I’m not sure FL will hit the panick button just yet and will probably work on getting the players familiar to each other and the way they play before making changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Quality player who needs time to gel with his host of new team mates, and settle into a new manager's system. Copy and paste this for any threads on Waghorn, Mount, or pretty much any Derby player this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammed79 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Well I thought at the time we had Jesse lingard that he was lightweight and disappointing he's now an England international I suppose it depends how they are managed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Original posted said a few games. He's only played two competitive games for Derby so straight away the post loses credibility. We have won one and lost one of those two games. Not the end of the world. He is a young player still learning and will be learning for the next few years. I'm sorry but our fan base is purely pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 31 minutes ago, cannable said: I never understand the immediate cries of ‘GIVE HIM TIME’. There’s some weird train of thought that points can’t be made just because it’s early into a tenure. McLovin’s made constructive points about how we could get Wilson to flourish. In fact, Lampard himself has played Wilson on the inside right of a midfield three this very pre-season. Yep, some of the responses are a bit odd. I’m not calling him a bad player, simply suggesting a way to get more out of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1976 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Rammed79 said: Well I thought at the time we had Jesse lingard that he was lightweight and disappointing he's now an England international I suppose it depends how they are managed. Or perhaps he’s matured as a player, if he had been the finished player then we wouldn’t have got him. Going on loan was part of his education, not the fact that he has or hasn’t been managed properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bald Eagle's Barmy Army Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, McLovin said: I don’t know if anyone else feels this way but I’ve been very disappointed with him in the last few games after a good pre season and all the reviews about him by Hull and Liverpool fans. He’s all left foot , seems very weak and fragile and doesn’t seem particularly quick. It seems to be leaving us very unbalanced on the right hand side because Wilson keeps wanting to come inside on his left foot and Wisdom doesn’t provide anything offensively. However, he’s a talented player so I don’t want to give up on him. That leads me onto my next point. I’m watching Arsenal v Man City and a player who is very similar to Harry Wilson in stature and attributes, Bernardo Silva, is playing on the right side of a 3 man midfield and he’s been fantastic. I wonder if it would be worth giving Wilson a try in a similar position and the same position that Saiz played for Leeds yesterday? Wilson appears to be blessed with his technique and has plenty of workrate. With players like Wilson, you want them influencing the game by being creative and the best way to do this is by playing him in the middle of the pitch rather than isolated on the wing, just like Saiz did for Leeds. If I recall correctly, Wilson played in midfield in one of the pre season games and did a fine job there. This would allow us to play Jozefzoon on the right wing and would give the team better balance as his pace would give us an option to run in behind opposition full backs. Wisdom then wouldn’t have to worry about contributing to anything offensively. TLDR: I propose playing Wilson in midfield where his creative ability would be put to more use alongside Mount and a defensive midfielder. This would then allow Jozefzoon to play on right wing. Stop the doom and gloom, stop the pointing fingers and stop any negativity you have in your head. Reading your post makes me think you've analysed the game like a thousand times in your head since the game finished and come up with this dross. We are two friggin games in and people like you start to give the team no chance over the next 44 games. Get a life man and wait at least a dozen games before starting to pick fault. You say you don't want to give up on him, two friggin games and your talking about giving up. Some Derby fans really are a wet lettuce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waffle Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I think it’s obvious he’s got ability. But I fear he feels the focus is on Mount and he tries harder to show he should be held in the same light. If he gets a goal, he’ll relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mckram Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I thought he actually looked dangerous on the ball yesterday when running at them. Lawrence on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 hour ago, McLovin said: I don’t know if anyone else feels this way Okay, I’m listening. Quote but I’ve been very disappointed with him Still with you. Not unreasonable. Quote in the last few games Okay no I’m well and truly out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mckram said: I thought he actually looked dangerous on the ball yesterday when running at them. Lawrence on the other hand... Hey don't beat young Wilson with a stick, I've already got one I'm using on young Lawrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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