SaintRam Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, nmj1989 said: It looks like this one will get over the line today Thanks for the info, nmj! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, nmj1989 said: Posh fan in peace here! Also have a soft spot for Derby due to family connections and was at Pride Park for the 2-0 win against Forest last season.... My fiances family are all Posh fans so I hope you all have a cracking season, my two young nephews got their first season tickets this summer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Where did this Marriott signing stuff come from? Just that he was left out the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 7 minutes ago, nmj1989 said: Posh fan in peace here! Also have a soft spot for Derby due to family connections and was at Pride Park for the 2-0 win against Forest last season. It looks like this one will get over the line today so will tell you a bit about Jack and what to expect. Firstly, like with every one of our transfers over the past 3 or 4 years, the figure will undoubtedly be undisclosed. There are rumours flying about on both sides but we won't know when it goes through. In about 18 months time, our chairman will accidentally/on purpose leak the figure during a random interview, however he is known to exaggerate a little. So whether it is 4, 5 or 6 million, this is what you're getting with Jack. Pro's: Jack is the hardest working player in the team. He never stops running and will constantly harass defenders into mistakes. He is used to the ball being pinged over the top of defenders so he can run into the space behind. He plays on the shoulder, similar to a Jermain Defoe or Michael Owen 10 years ago. He always seems to be in the right place at the right time. If the ball is bobbling about in the box, he tends to be the one who anticipates where it is going to land. He must have scored 15 goals last season due to anticipation alone. He is a cracking 'instinct' finisher. He doesn't need long to think. In fact, when he has too long to think, he tends to mess it up. He gets over injuries incredibly well. Twice last season it looked like he was going to be out for up to a month and yet started the next game. He is a really likeable guy. He seems down to earth and doesn't come with any baggage, unlike another player we are currently selling. Cons: Contrary to belief, he's not actually that fast. You don't watch Jack and go "wow, look at the pace". He's not the slowest but he's certainly not the fastest player in the squad. If Jack could finish one on ones, he would have scored 50 goals last season. As mentioned above, he seems to struggle when he has too long to think about the chance. When Marcus Maddison didn't play, Jack really struggled to make an impact. MM was our playmaker and could spot the runs Jack was going to make. Without Maddison, Jack wasn't getting the service and quickly became ineffective. He doesn't hold the ball up particularly well with his back to goal and his distribution is league 1/league 2 level. Overall, is he worth the money? Yes, in today's market he is well worth the money. Can he hack championship football? Literally no idea. He could score 30, he could score 5 next season. The only thing I can go on is when we played Villa in the FA Cup last season at Villa Park and he tore them apart, scoring twice and assisting the other. If I had to rate the 4 'big money' strikers that we have sold over the past 4 years, he would sit third. Dwight Gayle > Britt Assombalonga > Jack Marriott > Conor Washington Hope that helps and good luck next season! I hope he fires the Rams to the promised land! Are you the chairman suggesting we should buy Maddison as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northantsram Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, nmj1989 said: Posh fan in peace here! Also have a soft spot for Derby due to family connections and was at Pride Park for the 2-0 win against Forest last season. It looks like this one will get over the line today so will tell you a bit about Jack and what to expect. Firstly, like with every one of our transfers over the past 3 or 4 years, the figure will undoubtedly be undisclosed. There are rumours flying about on both sides but we won't know when it goes through. In about 18 months time, our chairman will accidentally/on purpose leak the figure during a random interview, however he is known to exaggerate a little. So whether it is 4, 5 or 6 million, this is what you're getting with Jack. Pro's: Jack is the hardest working player in the team. He never stops running and will constantly harass defenders into mistakes. He is used to the ball being pinged over the top of defenders so he can run into the space behind. He plays on the shoulder, similar to a Jermain Defoe or Michael Owen 10 years ago. He always seems to be in the right place at the right time. If the ball is bobbling about in the box, he tends to be the one who anticipates where it is going to land. He must have scored 15 goals last season due to anticipation alone. He is a cracking 'instinct' finisher. He doesn't need long to think. In fact, when he has too long to think, he tends to mess it up. He gets over injuries incredibly well. Twice last season it looked like he was going to be out for up to a month and yet started the next game. He is a really likeable guy. He seems down to earth and doesn't come with any baggage, unlike another player we are currently selling. Cons: Contrary to belief, he's not actually that fast. You don't watch Jack and go "wow, look at the pace". He's not the slowest but he's certainly not the fastest player in the squad. If Jack could finish one on ones, he would have scored 50 goals last season. As mentioned above, he seems to struggle when he has too long to think about the chance. When Marcus Maddison didn't play, Jack really struggled to make an impact. MM was our playmaker and could spot the runs Jack was going to make. Without Maddison, Jack wasn't getting the service and quickly became ineffective. He doesn't hold the ball up particularly well with his back to goal and his distribution is league 1/league 2 level. Overall, is he worth the money? Yes, in today's market he is well worth the money. Can he hack championship football? Literally no idea. He could score 30, he could score 5 next season. The only thing I can go on is when we played Villa in the FA Cup last season at Villa Park and he tore them apart, scoring twice and assisting the other. If I had to rate the 4 'big money' strikers that we have sold over the past 4 years, he would sit third. Dwight Gayle > Britt Assombalonga > Jack Marriott > Conor Washington Hope that helps and good luck next season! I hope he fires the Rams to the promised land! Thanks for taking the time to write that mate... Personally the con about Maddison doesn't bother me .. he would be playing with players of a higher quality in general so should see and find his runs ex.. The most pleasing thing is his anticipation, that can't be taught and is a natural gift in goalscoring players. and sometimes pace can be over rated .. I.e Theo Robinson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nmj1989 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Doodle said: Are you the chairman suggesting we should buy Maddison as well? ? It wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to keep them together. However, MM is an idiot of the highest order. Diving, moaning little b*stard who thinks he is Top 6 premier league quality. There's a reason he hasn't been sold yet, nobody wants that baggage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, nmj1989 said: ? It wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to keep them together. However, MM is an idiot of the highest order. Diving, moaning little b*stard who thinks he is Top 6 premier league quality. There's a reason he hasn't been sold yet, nobody wants that baggage! After that glowing tribute you can probably expect a call from Forest (or Leeds) this afternoon.......! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Harrowram said: Perhaps Nugent will move to Sheffield United to make way . Preston were also supposed to be interested in Jerome. That would leave us with Blackman, an unfit Martin, a not fully fit Vydra and Marriott assuming the rumours are true. If Marriott is coming at least we will be prepared for the season unlike last year when we were trying sign Dutch midfielders on the stroke of midnight at the end of the transfer window! So that's why he signed in the wrong place. He couldn't see the bloody paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Sounds like a guy that Rowett could have done with last season - ball over the top - tap ins - no holding of the ball etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Sounds like a guy that Rowett could have done with last season - ball over the top - tap ins - no holding of the ball etc We have one of the best strikers in the league at doing that job. We just keep loaning him out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC4LIFE Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Marriott main target on DET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, jimbobram said: We have one of the best strikers in the league at doing that job. We just keep loaning him out I don’t disagree but a fully fit Martin is required but that said lampard hasn’t moved him on yet has he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 50 minutes ago, nmj1989 said: ? It wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to keep them together. However, MM is an idiot of the highest order. Diving, moaning little b*stard who thinks he is Top 6 premier league quality. There's a reason he hasn't been sold yet, nobody wants that baggage! I’d have him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, EnigmaRam said: I’d have him Each to their own - not sure what relevance that has to whether we should sign him though ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 1 hour ago, nmj1989 said: ? It wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing to keep them together. However, MM is an idiot of the highest order. Diving, moaning little b*stard who thinks he is Top 6 premier league quality. There's a reason he hasn't been sold yet, nobody wants that baggage! I started off thinking you hated Mel Morris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 DT saying we're closing in on Marriott, and Waghorn's arrival could depend on departures first. Reckon we'll get an announcement in the next day or so, the deal seems far ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Heisenberg said: DT saying we're closing in on Marriott, and Waghorn's arrival could depend on departures first. Reckon we'll get an announcement in the next day or so, the deal seems far ahead. The 'imminent departures' bit is interesting, suggests that some are close to leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: The 'imminent departures' bit is interesting, suggests that some are close to leaving? Wouldn't surprise me if QPR are about to sign Martin, Blackman and Thorne. Total guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3766dan Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 I wonder who will sell the most Derby shirts this year: Mount, Wilson, Marriott, Waghorn, Lawrence or... Pearce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Wouldn't surprise me if QPR are about to sign Martin, Blackman and Thorne. Total guess. highly doubt they're in for Blackman after McClaren and Eustace were present for his performance against the VIlla U23s. He was one of the worst players on the pitch, surrounded by teenagers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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