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9 hours ago, Kennington Ram said:

There will come a day when I get bored of seeing Stoke City and that deceitful rick fall flat on their arse... But it is not this day.

 

 

LOTR references will always get extra points. Intentional or not.

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9 hours ago, WAGHORNY RAM99 said:

Allen is quality, Ince is good at this level, Butland and shawcross should be too good for the championship, Fletcher and mclean should be decent championship players, Bojan is a quality player and they signed a Nigerian midfielder for around 11 mill who looked good at the world cup. So all in all,  they have a quality squad for the championship that shouldn't be playing so poorly. Clearly , the morale is low after getting relegated and there is probably a lot of egos and discontent in the squad as many of the players will think they are too god for this level.

Its intresting how supporters rate there own players whereas you consider Allen is quality ( from a distance) yet nearly all stoke forum fans have considered him useless for two years and they refer to shawcross as dreadfully slow and past it but all that aside it’s quite funny watching it from a distance and thier followers have already marked the ‘snakes’ Card

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3 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Its intresting how supporters rate there own players whereas you consider Allen is quality ( from a distance) yet nearly all stoke forum fans have considered him useless for two years and they refer to shawcross as dreadfully slow and past it but all that aside it’s quite funny watching it from a distance and thier followers have already marked the ‘snakes’ Card

There were a number of media 'experts' pre-season predicting that Allen was way too good for the Championship and would quite easily be the best player in the division - he may come good, but as with most players dropping down from the Prem, it's a case of learning (quickly) to adapt to the different demands of the Championship - those that can't (or won't) adapt are doomed to fail and I suspect Stoke have more than their fair share who fall in to that category....

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He’ll be sacked soon and then he’ll start appearing on tv again and get his fellow dinosaur managers/friends in the media to talk him up again and play the he was unfairly sacked at Birmingham card again, before the old chestnut that a British manager was once again not given enough time and unfairly treated because the sneaky and smelly foreign players didn’t try for him or understand the history of the club.

Stoke will then hire a foreign manager who will then have almost slanderous comments directed at him by the English media about how foreigners are ruining the game and how they don’t understand the championship, before he inevitably gets them promoted and they all have egg on their faces.

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4 minutes ago, McLovin said:

He’ll be sacked soon and then he’ll start appearing on tv again and get his fellow dinosaur managers/friends in the media to talk him up again and play the he was unfairly sacked at Birmingham card again, before the old chestnut that a British manager was once again not given enough time and unfairly treated because the sneaky and smelly foreign players didn’t try for him or understand the history of the club.

Stoke will then hire a foreign manager who will then have almost slanderous comments directed at him by the English media about how foreigners are ruining the game and how they don’t understand the championship, before he inevitably gets them promoted and they all have egg on their faces.

I’m off to put a fiver on Rowett taking Stoke up now. Easy money.

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8 minutes ago, David said:

I’m off to put a fiver on Rowett taking Stoke up now. Easy money.

That won’t be happening any time soon, they failed to register a shot on target at home last night and their system is all over the place. He’s not using the players in their favoured positions and his team is full of players who don’t have any energy, ring a bell? Their best player by all accounts was their striker who hasn’t scored a single goal for them in 1 1/2 years. Not looking good for Mr dinosaur.

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5 minutes ago, McLovin said:

That won’t be happening any time soon, they failed to register a shot on target at home last night and their system is all over the place. He’s not using the players in their favoured positions and his team is full of players who don’t have any energy, ring a bell? Their best player by all accounts was their striker who hasn’t scored a single goal for them in 1 1/2 years. Not looking good for Mr dinosaur.

Well not until May no and we’re in August.

Started slow in his full season in charge at Derby, took a couple of months to get us picking up the results. 

As with us and Lampard, patience is required to allow him time to get his ideas across to the players. 

When that clicks it might not be pretty but it will be effective in getting results to start climbing the table.

Stoke are not the kinda club that pull the trigger on a manager, they get time, Hughes 5 years, Pulis 7.

Whilst it would be comical to see him get the boot in his first month in charge, highly unlikely. 

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3 minutes ago, David said:

Well not until May no and we’re in August.

Started slow in his full season in charge at Derby, took a couple of months to get us picking up the results. 

As with us and Lampard, patience is required to allow him time to get his ideas across to the players. 

When that clicks it might not be pretty but it will be effective in getting results to start climbing the table.

Stoke are not the kinda club that pull the trigger on a manager, they get time, Hughes 5 years, Pulis 7.

Whilst it would be comical to see him get the boot in his first month in charge, highly unlikely. 

This and the fact the forked out 2 million for the pleasure (allegedly) 

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9 minutes ago, David said:

Well not until May no and we’re in August.

Started slow in his full season in charge at Derby, took a couple of months to get us picking up the results. 

As with us and Lampard, patience is required to allow him time to get his ideas across to the players. 

When that clicks it might not be pretty but it will be effective in getting results to start climbing the table.

Stoke are not the kinda club that pull the trigger on a manager, they get time, Hughes 5 years, Pulis 7.

Whilst it would be comical to see him get the boot in his first month in charge, highly unlikely. 

Different scenario when he was at Derby, he was seen to be one of our own so he was given more protection and leeway and he had an extra half a season to prepare. Peter Coates will start to feel fan pressure if they continue  like this. The fans have already turned against him and their fans say that he has already alienated some of their better players. When the fans and the more influential players in the dressing room turn against you then it’s only a matter of time. They’ve seem to have worked out Rowett early on.

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2 minutes ago, McLovin said:

Different scenario when he was at Derby, he was seen to be one of our own so he was given more protection and leeway and he had an extra half a season to prepare. Peter Coates will start to feel fan pressure if they continue  like this. The fans have already turned against him and their fans say that he has already alienated some of their better players. When the fans and the more influential players in the dressing room turn against you then it’s only a matter of time. They’ve seem to have worked out Rowett early on.

This was outside the Bet365 before they appointed Hughes. Survived 5 years.

Thinking Rowett is anywhere near getting the sack is nothing more than wishful thinking.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2333055/Stoke-City-fans-turn-Mark-Hughes-appointed-manager.html

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2 minutes ago, David said:

This was outside the Bet365 before they appointed Hughes. Survived 5 years.

Thinking Rowett is anywhere near getting the sack is nothing more than wishful thinking.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2333055/Stoke-City-fans-turn-Mark-Hughes-appointed-manager.html

They were a premier league club then, very different situation when Hughes played better football than Rowett current does and was generally consistent, leading Stoke to their best finish in the premier league in the process. Their owner has spent a lot of money, the most in the championship, and if the results and performances don’t improve, Rowett could be in serious trouble, what the owner has or hasn’t done in the past is irrelevant as they were in a different league then and were consistently surviving  relegation comfortably.

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9 minutes ago, McLovin said:

They were a premier league club then, very different situation when Hughes played better football than Rowett current does and was generally consistent, leading Stoke to their best finish in the premier league in the process. Their owner has spent a lot of money, the most in the championship, and if the results and performances don’t improve, Rowett could be in serious trouble, what the owner has or hasn’t done in the past is irrelevant as they were in a different league then and were consistently surviving  relegation comfortably.

As I say, I think results will improve. We’re in August, 4 games in, the league table won’t look the same come May (sorry Bolton fans).

Obviously if the results don’t improve he will get the sack. 

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Not to have a shot on target at home against anyone is quite appalling. It's quite funny how quickly the pressure has been ramped up too. 

He'll have difficulty talking his way out of this one, but sacking him now would be a disaster. He's the highest paid manager in the Championship, so considering Bielsa is on £2.5m-a-year. The contract he signed is worth at least £8m over the 3 years, you would think? 

Nightmare for Stoke.

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