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JoetheRam

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14 minutes ago, Alpha said:

I'm also interested in what @Mafiabob makes of it.

Maybe I'm being thick and incredibly narrow minded. Am I missing what is so evil about a betting company advert on a shirt?

I mean it's not opening people's eyes to betting. Pretty sure everyone knows it exists. It's not forcing anyone to gamble. 

Betting adverts are on TV, radio I think? Bus stops... I check a story on the Sky app and I'm offered odds on a sporting event. 

When it comes to coverage of a sport they tell you the odds to show how favourite the favourite is. 

I never saw Benson and Hedges plastered all over the Jordan F1 team and thought about smoking. Carlsberg on Liverpool never made we want to drink. Watching Joe Hart wash his hair in Head and Shoulders, Oxlade Chamberlain rub Nivea into his nipple etc etc.

If I'm going to put a bet on is up to me. Now all advertising does is influence who I use? 32 Red will stick in my head more than Bet Victor now. But it won't open me up to anything that I'm not already opening up to with my free will? 

I apologise if I'm missing the point. I just think people need to be accountable for themselves.

And if you are addicted to gambling or have been previously then you are well aware of all the opportunities to gamble. You know the casinos and the sites. 

Like an Alcoholic knows what alcohol is out there. Seeing the name on a shirt or a bus stop or on an advert is not going to make the difference? Is that really the trigger? Surely there's a battle in the brain and it's about getting the right winner. Far beyond the influence of an advert? 

I dunno.

I judge logos on whether they make the kit look cool. Samsung is always a nice simple look. Doesn't make me buy a Samsung TV though. Helped put the brand at the front of my mind when I bought one. But in the end it was a Phillips if anyone is interested. Wish I'd bought Samsung already 

Valid.

For me it's just another thing that I wish wasn't in football and it's disappointing that we're now one of those clubs to take it further down the rabbit hole. I'm enough a man of the world to know that football is all about money, it's a business, we need to have rubbish things on our shirts to be able to buy another left back, yadda yadda. As a football puritan though, I just wish it wasn't so.

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Kernow

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I understand the arguments for not having betting companies on the front of shirts, but why is it only an issue when it's on shirts? We have had an official betting partner for a while now, Coral, and it's advertised on our social media regularly and you can place bets within the concourses. I don't recall seeing anything made of this though.

I hope those who are saying it is a disgrace don't bet themselves? I can fully understand those with personal issues or feelings towards betting being unhappy with this, but for the last week we've been fixed to the odds of who our next manager will be. Screenshots of odds from various bookmakers have been posted into this forum.

I haven't bought any Avon Tyres, I can't remember the last time I used Just Eat, I've never bought a mobile phone from buymobiles, I've never had an account with Derbyshire Building Society and I've never had a pint of Marstons Pedigree. I have no online betting accounts, my gambling habit goes as far as a £1 accumulator on the odd occasion I'm in town before 3pm kick-offs on a Saturday. Having 32Red on the front of our shirt is going to do absolutely nothing to encourage me to open an account on their website.

The name on our shirt is who pays the most, and that's the way it's always going to be.

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6 minutes ago, Kernow said:

I understand the arguments for not having betting companies on the front of shirts, but why is it only an issue when it's on shirts? We have had an official betting partner for a while now, Coral, and it's advertised on our social media regularly and you can place bets within the concourses. I don't recall seeing anything made of this though.

I hope those who are saying it is a disgrace don't bet themselves? I can fully understand those with personal issues or feelings towards betting being unhappy with this, but for the last week we've been fixed to the odds of who our next manager will be. Screenshots of odds from various bookmakers have been posted into this forum.

I haven't bought any Avon Tyres, I can't remember the last time I used Just Eat, I've never bought a mobile phone from buymobiles, I've never had an account with Derbyshire Building Society and I've never had a pint of Marstons Pedigree. I have no online betting accounts, my gambling habit goes as far as a £1 accumulator on the odd occasion I'm in town before 3pm kick-offs on a Saturday. Having 32Red on the front of our shirt is going to do absolutely nothing to encourage me to open an account on their website.

The name on our shirt is who pays the most, and that's the way it's always going to be.

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England Ram

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8 minutes ago, Kernow said:

I understand the arguments for not having betting companies on the front of shirts, but why is it only an issue when it's on shirts? We have had an official betting partner for a while now, Coral, and it's advertised on our social media regularly and you can place bets within the concourses. I don't recall seeing anything made of this though.

I hope those who are saying it is a disgrace don't bet themselves? I can fully understand those with personal issues or feelings towards betting being unhappy with this, but for the last week we've been fixed to the odds of who our next manager will be. Screenshots of odds from various bookmakers have been posted into this forum.

I haven't bought any Avon Tyres, I can't remember the last time I used Just Eat, I've never bought a mobile phone from buymobiles, I've never had an account with Derbyshire Building Society and I've never had a pint of Marstons Pedigree. I have no online betting accounts, my gambling habit goes as far as a £1 accumulator on the odd occasion I'm in town before 3pm kick-offs on a Saturday. Having 32Red on the front of our shirt is going to do absolutely nothing to encourage me to open an account on their website.

The name on our shirt is who pays the most, and that's the way it's always going to be.

And that Coral contract brings in close to £1 million pounds a year (the figure I heard was about £800,000) 

If we had been promoted they would have created a contract war between Coral and another company that I can’t remember off the top of my head (and I’m not a betting man so it didn’t stick when I heard it) and that would have been worth around £3.5 million. 

I don’t know how much the shirt sponsor will be but it will pay for someone’s wages. 

I disagree with having it on the shirt for similar reasons as others have stated, but can see why the club goes down the money route when it brings in as much as it does. 

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Boycie

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50 minutes ago, JoetheRam said:

We've nearly completed the set haven't we?

Alcohol

Fast Food

Gambling

Maxwell

Only missing a weapons manufacturer now.

You missed one.

Banking!

(and that’s not the swear filter!)

They ruined lives as well, probably caused the alcoholism and gamblers to start all this off.

 

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ariotofmyown

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I've got a Fulham membership number and they sent me an email with a betting deal before the playoff final through their sponsers Grovsner Casino.

If I opened an account and put 10 quid on Fulham, they were offering 5-1 odds. I was going to go for it, but forgot. It probably had some terms and conditions about what it could do with any winnings too.

However, the main aim would be to try and get me as a customer so they can try and get me hooked into online casino games, like all the betting companies do.

If you think this not a problem, then you are probably the sort of person who would never get into trouble with gambling.

I hope we don't go down this road of recruiting 'players' for these 32red cowboys.

 

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59 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

The point is betting and alcohol are no different. They bitb are popular they both are addictive.

They’re totally different imo. 

Alcohol is part of the social fabric of society, whereas betting is just pointless and a total con. 

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Just now, philmycock said:

Anything can be addictive

Nah, not everything.

I'd explain why, but I'm late for my half-nine Jodrell. If I don't crack on I'll never be recovered for the 10 o'clock.

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The Scarlet Pimpernel

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9 minutes ago, Lambchop said:

They’re totally different imo. 

Alcohol is part of the social fabric of society, whereas betting is just pointless and a total con. 

I was focusing on the addictive potential for each. I agree that one is totally based on greed whilst the other in its purest form is based potentially on merely socialising.

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