Lampard too expensive?

[Stive Pesley]

23 minutes ago, McLovin said:

I’ve heard many things about Lampard in my time but calling him a “thick footballer” is right up there. If you think that then you clearly have an agenda against him.

No agenda against him personally, but his first wife was a model and hen they split up she said he was too thick for her haha

My beef really is with the game. The amount of money involved is slowly ruining the love for me. If Derby give the manager's job to one of the wealthiest sportsmen in the country then that's just a nail in the coffin for me.

Anyway - haven't they just announced that his missus is pregnant? Can't see them all moving to Derby (last 3 houses, Kensington, Manhattan, Allenton..) when she works in TV.

I suppose if he times it right he can get sacked by Xmas with a huge pay-off and get a nice bit of time off on paternity duties

[Bald Eagle's Barmy Army]

4 minutes ago, Jayram said:

I don’t get the excitement around Lampard. I like the bloke but he has zero management experience and it was only a few months ago that he was being linked to League 1 level clubs like Oxford. Personally I’m not interested in our club being a former Premier League footballers vanity project. We need someone with experience and who is proven in building successful teams that play good football. My choice would be Paul Cook but I assume he’s not in the running as he doesn’t appear in the betting odds. The likes of Dean Smith would be a better option than Lampard.

Personally I think we need to go down this route to raise the profile of the club again. Somebody like Lampard who has been brought through Youth Systems would hopefully want to add in a few academy players and would also attract some great loan players. This is something we are missing at the moment.

Most of those players we currently have will have grown up watching Lampard and would have probably had his calendar on their wall. This guy will earn instant respect wherever he goes and maybe this should be at Derby.

Get him in, lets support him and we'll all keep our fingers crossed that he gets poached by a big Premier League club in 18 months when he's worked his magic at Derby.

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

Yes, the analogy I was going to use was recruiting a really good, top class in fact Brickie with no management experience to become the CEO of a big Construction Company.....

The real analogy is that if you employed a group of bricklayers would you hire one of the the best and most experienced bricklayers who had captained the England bricklaying team to develop your employees...

[Greg The Sheep]

Wouldn't it be more like hiring a world class brickie, with a degree in training brickies to be in charge of training the brickies and set out the future planning of how the bricks will be laid???

[Rample]

It is odd the Oxford and MK Dons job links didn't come to anything - not that there was ever anything concrete. Maybe it was only ever press speculation, maybe he didn't want to drop that far down, but both are clubs that shouldn't have too much pressure but are still decent sized teams where he could learn the ropes, progress and move up.

[RoyMac5]

2 minutes ago, StivePesley said:

Anyway - haven't they just announced that his missus is pregnant? Can't see them all moving to Derby (last 3 houses, Kensington, Manhattan, Allenton..) when she works in TV.

I imagine you could land at helicopter at Moor Farm?

[desirelines]

12 minutes ago, eddie said:

There goes the disabled fans' access.

Glenn will personally get the wheelchair ramp out for any fans...WILLING TO REPENT! 

[hintonsboots]

1 minute ago, Greg The Sheep said:

Wouldn't it be more like hiring a world class brickie, with a degree in training brickies to be in charge of training the brickies and set out the future planning of how the bricks will be laid???

Welcome to the Forum Mr Holloway.

[TaylorRam84]

6 minutes ago, Jayram said:

I don’t get the excitement around Lampard. I like the bloke but he has zero management experience and it was only a few months ago that he was being linked to League 1 level clubs like Oxford. Personally I’m not interested in our club being a former Premier League footballers vanity project. We need someone with experience and who is proven in building successful teams that play good football. My choice would be Paul Cook but I assume he’s not in the running as he doesn’t appear in the betting odds. The likes of Dean Smith would be a better option than Lampard.

Dean smith would be my 2nd choice but alot of people raving about him dont seem to realise that he's done well in a certain set up. He's not gonna have that set up at derby, so will he be the same? He may play decent football too but do we have the players who can play that way now?

I want lampard because it's something fresh. Something to get excited about. A reason for me to grab my season ticket on a weekend and want to go. Didn't have that this season. Keep hearing we have no money to spend, so use the loan market surely? Lampard is someone who no doubt will have friends at other clubs and contacts and also someone people would want to come play for.

For me appointing any of the other candidates is just carrying on in the same direction we have been for the last 6 or 7 years. We need to change it up and do something brave. It may not work out I understand that but if you can give me a name of someone who 100% garuntees success then that's fine by me, give them the job. But that doesn't exist. I want a new direction and a fresh image at derby.

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

When some say "He doesn't have enough management experience" what do you mean?

[CornwallRam]

13 minutes ago, TaylorRam84 said:

Alot of people saying no to giving Lampard a go. 

But rather than just saying 'no, he has no experience', give me a name of who you do want and who you think would be a better and more exciting option?

Paul Cook, Billy Davies, Sam Allardyce, Danny Cowley, Craig Ramage, Nigel Clough, Simon Clough, Mark Warbuton, Martin O'Neill, Paul Simpson, Igor Stimac, Steve Cotteril, Paul Clement, Nigel Pearson, Aljoša Asanović. Mick McCarthy, Neil Wanock, Dean Smith, Kevin Phillips, Darren Wassall, Michael Appleton, Slaven Bilic, Steve Nicholson, George Graham, Arsene Wegner, David Icke, Lee Johnson, Stefanio Eranio, Michel Platini, Paul Lambert, Alex Neil, Chris Powell, Jack Ross, Jaap Stam, Slaven Bilic, Chris Wilder, Lee Carsley, Darren Moore, Maradona, Madonna, Mad Hamster, George Weah's cousin, Peter Shilton, Ramblur, Kevin Keegan...even Paul Whitehouse has more experience as a football manager than Frank Lampard.

[irobinson]

2 minutes ago, CornwallRam said:

Paul Cook, Billy Davies, Sam Allardyce, Danny Cowley, Craig Ramage, Nigel Clough, Simon Clough, Mark Warbuton, Martin O'Neill, Paul Simpson, Igor Stimac, Steve Cotteril, Paul Clement, Nigel Pearson, Aljoša Asanović. Mick McCarthy, Neil Wanock, Dean Smith, Kevin Phillips, Darren Wassall, Michael Appleton, Slaven Bilic, Steve Nicholson, George Graham, Arsene Wegner, David Icke, Lee Johnson, Stefanio Eranio, Michel Platini, Paul Lambert, Alex Neil, Chris Powell, Jack Ross, Jaap Stam, Slaven Bilic, Chris Wilder, Lee Carsley, Darren Moore, Maradona, Madonna, Mad Hamster, George Weah's cousin, Peter Shilton, Ramblur, Kevin Keegan...even Paul Whitehouse has more experience as a football manager than Frank Lampard.

I wouldn't mind purple back in the away strip - so David Icke maybe

[RadioactiveWaste]

Wouldn't be too fussed if this doesn't come off.

Downsizing expert capable of navigating tricky situations whilst delivering sufficient results is real specialist skillset. Nigel Clough managed it here, Mick Mccarthy has managed it at other clubs.

To do the above and deliver exciting football and lots of youth development, whilst dealing with Chairman Mel?

It's going to be a hard task to succeed in just getting through this patch, and even succeeded in that, you'd probably get a fan view that the team on the pitch isn't a patch on recent ones,Hence it's a failure.

If Frank Lampard could do that, he'd be demonstrating credentials to go very far as a manager. And jump to west ham or another PL side soon as a good offer turns up.

[archied]

What’s the journey time on helicopter from london to derby?

[QuitYourJibbaJivin]

1 minute ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

When some say "He doesn't have enough management experience" what do you mean?

My worry is that this squad needs major trimming this closed season. He’s going to have to make big calls on players and find hidden gems in the lower leagues. Unless we’re going to get a DOF to do this for him. Walking into your first managerial role must be hard enough as it is but the task on hand at Derby this summer is massive, Hel be jumping straight into the deep end. For these reasons I don’t believe Mel will go for him. 

I said a few weeks back Dean Smith would be my choice, although he might not be as good without the Brentford off field structure, but he goes about football the right way as he showed at Walsall. I still think Wel end up with big Mick McCarthy though, experienced in working to a budget and trimming squads. Plus he loves viva la sh*thouse football so we’re already built for him.

[RoyMac5]

1 minute ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

Wouldn't be too fussed if this doesn't come off.

Downsizing expert capable of navigating tricky situations whilst delivering sufficient results is real specialist skillset. 

What skill? They're mostly out of contract the season after next.

[RadioactiveWaste]

Just now, RoyMac5 said:

What skill? They're mostly out of contract the season after next.

If other sources are to be believed, significant downsizing is required this summer.

Or, put it this way, if it wasn't, perhaps Rowett wouldn't have been so keen on the Stoke job.

Making difficult decisions about who is and isn't vital is a managerial skill.

[TaylorRam84]

9 minutes ago, CornwallRam said:

Paul Cook, Billy Davies, Sam Allardyce, Danny Cowley, Craig Ramage, Nigel Clough, Simon Clough, Mark Warbuton, Martin O'Neill, Paul Simpson, Igor Stimac, Steve Cotteril, Paul Clement, Nigel Pearson, Aljoša Asanović. Mick McCarthy, Neil Wanock, Dean Smith, Kevin Phillips, Darren Wassall, Michael Appleton, Slaven Bilic, Steve Nicholson, George Graham, Arsene Wegner, David Icke, Lee Johnson, Stefanio Eranio, Michel Platini, Paul Lambert, Alex Neil, Chris Powell, Jack Ross, Jaap Stam, Slaven Bilic, Chris Wilder, Lee Carsley, Darren Moore, Maradona, Madonna, Mad Hamster, George Weah's cousin, Peter Shilton, Ramblur, Kevin Keegan...even Paul Whitehouse has more experience as a football manager than Frank Lampard.

Yes they do but they have also failed in management at one point or another in their careers so experience doesnt count for everything.

But like I said before are they more exciting appointments than lampard would be? To me they would all be boring appointments that are pretty much the same as all the others we've made in the last god knows how many years. And they havnt exactly worked out either have they.

 

 

Forgot to add quote when I posted it before ?

[CornwallRam]

14 minutes ago, Monty said:

The real analogy is that if you employed a group of bricklayers would you hire one of the the best and most experienced bricklayers who had captained the England bricklaying team to develop your employees...

Yes if I wanted someone to be a bricklaying academy coach, but not to run the whole construction firm.

[CornwallRam]

27 minutes ago, CHCDerby said:

You don't need experience in everything. I became a Dad from the first time of trying. 

Quick, someone pull a condom over Mel's head