SuperDerbySuperRams Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 3 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: How is SDSR in a position to be confirming what Derby players are earning?!?! Would agree though that his new contract did put him amongst the highest earners. When he signed the contract, that's what I was told. I don't have a spreadsheet with all the squads wages on, if that's what you're thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 hour ago, EnigmaRam said: On a brighter note we got Blackman and Camara for the same amount we will get for hughes. You've just made me feel even worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 52 minutes ago, BOB BIGGS said: Looking at this positively [hard as that is], if Will Hughes can't get into Derby County's Championship midfield and yet is generally considered to be Premiership class, we must be about to bring in at least one stunning new player to replace him. I'm looking forward to seeing who that is. No pressure there then......... You'll be disappointed sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, CumbrianRam said: You'll be disappointed sadly Not going to happen is it? I saw a lot of talk about Rowett saying we weren't looking at old players this summer, yet they're the only ones we're being linked with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I think the money tree has dried up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 1 minute ago, CumbrianRam said: I think the money tree has dried up.. I did suggest it on the transfer thread. All those seasons of terrible transfer business, that, let's be honest, a lot of fans could see was rubbish, is coming back to haunt us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: When he signed the contract, that's what I was told. I don't have a spreadsheet with all the squads wages on, if that's what you're thinking I think it was reported in the media as well. £30k per week if I remember correctly. Does that agree to your spreadsheet?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 GR has taken over a team of flops, he has to change the flops into battlers and winners. He has already said every player is available at the right price, speculation was rife that we have to get players off the large wage bill. So we can expect quiet a few players to go, unfortunately it also means our best players will be the ones that other clubs will want So expect Ince, Hughes Martin and co. Who would want the likes of Blackman , ECT. So we have now a new manager who will have to rebuild a team with who he has left as a squad rather than building a squad around certain players. He has now brought in Davies and Wisdom, but do think wisdom is a very good buy and more long term. But still nobody has gone out as yet and that wage bill has got even bigger! Will GR turn into another Pearson or another bald eagle, I do hope the latter, but time will tell....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, toddy said: GR has taken over a team of flops, he has to change the flops into battlers and winners. He has already said every player is available at the right price, speculation was rife that we have to get players off the large wage bill. So we can expect quiet a few players to go, unfortunately it also means our best players will be the ones that other clubs will want So expect Ince, Hughes Martin and co. Who would want the likes of Blackman , ECT. Will GR turn into another Pearson or another bald eagle, I do hope the latter, but time will tell....... He's not turning them round from being flops if he's shipping them out, he's giving up on them. The nightmare scenario is this turns into Tommy doc. We flog the best as we need the funds - partly to cover the losses we will incur on the flops. That only leaves us limited funds to bring in cheapies and old lags.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 13 hours ago, CumbrianRam said: I bet you good money the guy who replaces in will be on more money and be 10 years older. And what does that matter if he helps gets us promoted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostedRam Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 9 hours ago, EnigmaRam said: On a brighter note we got Blackman and Camara for the same amount we will get for hughes. Since when was £4.25 million the same as £8 million ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, HantsRam said: He's not turning them round from being flops if he's shipping them out, he's giving up on them. The nightmare scenario is this turns into Tommy doc. We flog the best as we need the funds - partly to cover the losses we will incur on the flops. That only leaves us limited funds to bring in cheapies and old lags.... Already brought in an old lag -Curtis Davies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, toddy said: Already brought in an old lag -Curtis Davies And look at the majority of links....boyd, whelan, ledley, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 4 minutes ago, HantsRam said: And look at the majority of links....boyd, whelan, ledley, etc... I wouldn't worry about the players who we are linked with. Maybe Flint and Hanley were the smokescreen to lose Villa scouts while doing business with Hull... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just now, Dimmu said: I wouldn't worry about the players who we are linked with. Maybe Flint and Hanley were the smokescreen to lose Villa scouts while doing business with Hull... Here's hoping. Although the window is open for a while there's much less time before the squad come together for pre season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsPolls Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Hughes' performances have been poor for the past 2 seasons. Why do our fans expect to be charging top price for a player that isn't at the top of his game? £8m is a fair price, it's not the best, but at the same time it isn't the worst. Hughes needs to improve significantly to get to where we all want him to be. However at this moment, we cannot ask for anymore money for him as he isn't worth it. The truth is... Would you pay £8m for Will Hughes to come into Derby County from another club at this moment in time? If you say yes then you're either lieing or don't know a thing about football. If Hughes didn't come from our academy, people wouldn't rate him as highly as they do. Just because he is one of our own, doesn't mean he is the special one. He's fallen off from his potential in the past 2 seasons and this move is best for all parties as he won't be in Garys plans for next season and he'll just get worse and worse by sitting on the bench. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, RamsPolls said: Hughes' performances have been poor for the past 2 seasons. Why do our fans expect to be charging top price for a player that isn't at the top of his game? £8m is a fair price, it's not the best, but at the same time it isn't the worst. Hughes needs to improve significantly to get to where we all want him to be. However at this moment, we cannot ask for anymore money for him as he isn't worth it. The truth is... Would you pay £8m for Will Hughes to come into Derby County from another club at this moment in time? If you say yes then you're either lieing or don't know a thing about football. If Hughes didn't come from our academy, people wouldn't rate him as highly as they do. Just because he is one of our own, doesn't mean he is the special one. He's fallen off from his potential in the past 2 seasons and this move is best for all parties as he won't be in Garys plans for next season and he'll just get worse and worse by sitting on the bench. Time to move on. You keep banging on about he's not played well for the last two seasons, are you forgetting that the season before last he was injured for nearly all season and then when he did come back he played extremely well going into the playoffs ? Also with regard the season just gone, I suspect his performances at the club (like many others) were massively effected by managerial upheaval and having a completely unbalanced squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, RamsPolls said: Hughes' performances have been poor for the past 2 seasons. Why do our fans expect to be charging top price for a player that isn't at the top of his game? £8m is a fair price, it's not the best, but at the same time it isn't the worst. Hughes needs to improve significantly to get to where we all want him to be. However at this moment, we cannot ask for anymore money for him as he isn't worth it. The truth is... Would you pay £8m for Will Hughes to come into Derby County from another club at this moment in time? If you say yes then you're either lieing or don't know a thing about football. If Hughes didn't come from our academy, people wouldn't rate him as highly as they do. Just because he is one of our own, doesn't mean he is the special one. He's fallen off from his potential in the past 2 seasons and this move is best for all parties as he won't be in Garys plans for next season and he'll just get worse and worse by sitting on the bench. Time to move on. £8m is still too low. You can't really blame him for being poor when he was injured for 95% of a season can you? Watford made £108m for finishing 17th last season, and Hughes has three seasons left on his contract. Are you telling me we aren't in a position to ask for at least a couple of million more? So what if they say no and go elsewhere, a decent season with us could see his worth increase. Say what you like about Fawaz, but he did brilliantly to squeeze £13m out of RBL for Burke. I'm tired of our club getting shafted when it comes to buying & selling. Mel's bought too high & sold too low ever since he took over, no wonder we're having to flog our best players on the cheap!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrm14 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 39 minutes ago, RamsPolls said: The truth is... Would you pay £8m for Will Hughes to come into Derby County from another club at this moment in time? If you say yes then you're either lieing or don't know a thing about football. Would I pay £8m for an u21 international who is English, extremely technical, young and with an exceptionally high ceiling in a market where players like Pickford and Maguire are going for 30m and 17m respectively? I wouldn't even hesitate. We've been mugged off and you're genuinely deluded if you think this is a good fee in this market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 14 hours ago, CumbrianRam said: I bet you good money the guy who replaces in will be on more money and be 10 years older. Surely the key factor is If Will is sold will it enable the manager to improve the team and by doing so increase our chances of promotion?Rowett has made 2 signings so far spending a reported 3 million bring in two great signings.Brian Clough went out and bought a player who was approaching 30 whio had suffered having the same leg broken twice that player was Dave Mackey so keep your betting money safe until you know exactly who comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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