AshfieldRam Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 He's worth signing for his beard alone... absolutely majestic that thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: Give the guy a break.... Or I'm just saying what I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stimacked Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 No harm in having another option in midfield. We need further reinforcement in January, but Thorne needs time before he's fully fit, he even said so himself a week or so ago that he expected to be involved with the U23's for a while yet. Callum Guy is also way off match fitness, coming back from injury himself. Max Bird looks a great talent, but needs time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbados Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Jesus, another 30+ ex premier league player. Hasn't played a game in donkeys apart from the odd sub appearance from the Welsh bench. Derby County, where players come to die. when will this club learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Derbados said: Jesus, another 30+ ex premier league player. Hasn't played a game in donkeys apart from the odd sub appearance from the Welsh bench. Derby County, where players come to die. when will this club learn Bet he'll be cheap too. Good choice Rowett! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 His last game was in June against Serbia and played full game as well lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Were holding talks over next 48 hours i think he will signed id rather give one of young lads game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t'oldu Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 He said he wanted a Prem club or to go abroad.ie he didn't want to drop down to the Championship He wont be cheap but he could well be the answer short term.. But if GR is going back for MK in January then Ledley could be an expensive white elephant and it could well take him till then to get match fit . . Having said all that we desperately need a MFG to break up play and disperse. But if this is a transition season with no expectation then there is no pressure to fill the position before we can complete the MK deal............ ie if he is still available under a new manager. Glad I'm not GR. .......... with my job depending on our players . There is one thing they are very good at ..................................!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Yes not sure how many of the players at Derby when Rowett arrived he thinks he can really rely on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, AshfieldRam said: He's worth signing for his beard alone... absolutely majestic that thing No tattoos though which is a massive disappointment. It has to drop his wage at least 5K per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 I'm not sure that we've got a choice. We don't have a 'Bryson' to make 433 work and we don't have a proper target man for a 451, so we're going to need a midfield pairing (whether we play 4231, 442, 352 etc). At present Huddlestone and Johnson are our only fully fit central midfielders. They are just too immobile and neither have much defensive ability. Unless we get to play Hull every week, we are quite likely to get tonked. If we lose the next three, the atmosphere around the club will be toxic. Things may ease a little with Thorne and Hanson coming back, but neither are perfect for the midfield battler role and both are likely to break down again. IMO we are in a very precarious position atm. We have some excellent players, and many more who are perfectly adequate for a top 6 side. The problem is that the balance is wrong. When the opposition have the ball, we have a gap where our midfield should be. We need a proper battling, defensive central midfielder. Even better if that player can actually play a little when we do have the ball. This was blindingly obvious in July, but the club stuffed up the transfer window. In August we should have been able to find a young, energetic player, who would have jumped at the chance to move up to a club like Derby County...but we didn't. Now we're left with the scraps. Ledley looks like the best of those barrel scrapings. He's older than we would want, so might tire more quickly than is ideal. He obviously thinks he's too good for us, so might have an attitude problem. He's not played regularly, so may well need several weeks to get fit. He's probably going to demand a huge salary and signing on fee, so will cause FFP issues, but who else is there? Joe Ledley is the price that we have to pay for making such a mess of the transfer window. IMO it's Ledley and a promotion battle or no Ledley and season looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Willow Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: I'm not sure that we've got a choice. We don't have a 'Bryson' to make 433 work and we don't have a proper target man for a 451, so we're going to need a midfield pairing (whether we play 4231, 442, 352 etc). At present Huddlestone and Johnson are our only fully fit central midfielders. They are just too immobile and neither have much defensive ability. Unless we get to play Hull every week, we are quite likely to get tonked. If we lose the next three, the atmosphere around the club will be toxic. Things may ease a little with Thorne and Hanson coming back, but neither are perfect for the midfield battler role and both are likely to break down again. IMO we are in a very precarious position atm. We have some excellent players, and many more who are perfectly adequate for a top 6 side. The problem is that the balance is wrong. When the opposition have the ball, we have a gap where our midfield should be. We need a proper battling, defensive central midfielder. Even better if that player can actually play a little when we do have the ball. This was blindingly obvious in July, but the club stuffed up the transfer window. In August we should have been able to find a young, energetic player, who would have jumped at the chance to move up to a club like Derby County...but we didn't. Now we're left with the scraps. Ledley looks like the best of those barrel scrapings. He's older than we would want, so might tire more quickly than is ideal. He obviously thinks he's too good for us, so might have an attitude problem. He's not played regularly, so may well need several weeks to get fit. He's probably going to demand a huge salary and signing on fee, so will cause FFP issues, but who else is there? Joe Ledley is the price that we have to pay for making such a mess of the transfer window. IMO it's Ledley and a promotion battle or no Ledley and season looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door. Spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 When fit he has quality and a coup for anyone in this league. however the fact no one has signed him yet makes me question his motives. Would indicate he is solely money motivated. He will also need a good few weeks to build up his fitness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Actully mate does not comand a fee as he free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 56 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: I'm not sure that we've got a choice. We don't have a 'Bryson' to make 433 work and we don't have a proper target man for a 451, so we're going to need a midfield pairing (whether we play 4231, 442, 352 etc). At present Huddlestone and Johnson are our only fully fit central midfielders. They are just too immobile and neither have much defensive ability. Unless we get to play Hull every week, we are quite likely to get tonked. If we lose the next three, the atmosphere around the club will be toxic. Things may ease a little with Thorne and Hanson coming back, but neither are perfect for the midfield battler role and both are likely to break down again. IMO we are in a very precarious position atm. We have some excellent players, and many more who are perfectly adequate for a top 6 side. The problem is that the balance is wrong. When the opposition have the ball, we have a gap where our midfield should be. We need a proper battling, defensive central midfielder. Even better if that player can actually play a little when we do have the ball. This was blindingly obvious in July, but the club stuffed up the transfer window. In August we should have been able to find a young, energetic player, who would have jumped at the chance to move up to a club like Derby County...but we didn't. Now we're left with the scraps. Ledley looks like the best of those barrel scrapings. He's older than we would want, so might tire more quickly than is ideal. He obviously thinks he's too good for us, so might have an attitude problem. He's not played regularly, so may well need several weeks to get fit. He's probably going to demand a huge salary and signing on fee, so will cause FFP issues, but who else is there? Joe Ledley is the price that we have to pay for making such a mess of the transfer window. IMO it's Ledley and a promotion battle or no Ledley and season looking over our shoulders at the relegation trap-door. Nail and head, Sir! A situation entirely of our own making. In the building GR has managed to paint himself into the tightest corner and now has nothing but Hobson's Choice to sign a "mercenary" to patch up the biggest midfield hole in the entire Championship panoply. Will he sign? Won't he sign? Is he the right player? Will he do the right job for the team or he is here to smoke a great big, fat, aromatic, Cuban cigar that MM will light for him as Joseph strokes his designer beard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Can imagime we have had a chat with him and offered him deal until the end so he had a chance to get fit show his worth, cover for BJ and TH and if a Prem team comes in for him in Jan then he will be free to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: Actully mate does not comand a fee as he free agent. Signing on fee mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 3 hours ago, DcFc Dyycheee said: Would be a good signing n my opinion. Would give us a natural holding midfielder next to Huddlestone that would hold his position and put tackles in. I think we are short in central midfield, signing an experienced pro with over 60 international caps looks a good move to me...he is 30, not 36.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie G Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 If this goes through I don't get it. What does Ledley give us that is different to thorne , huddlestone and Johnson? Answer: not a lot , this smells of a panic deal and I really thought we was going to leave these deals in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DcFc Dyycheee Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 "Joe Ledley to sign for Derby County today as Wales star finally finds a new club" - http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/joe-ledley-sign-derby-county-13649196 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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