BramcoteRam84 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Considering what we paid for him, Cyrus has been a good player for Derby. I also think he has potential to play at a higher level and is no where near as bad as some make out. He is unplayable when on his game, and played well for 3/4 of his first season, most of the clement season and then played until injury last season. When he's bad however, he's horrendous and it's these performances people remember, even when in a lot of these games other players are having mares!! On his day he is one of the best in the league but as much as he talks himself up, he's a confidence player, if things go wrong he goes to pieces. Maybe Rowett will complete him by improving his game defensively, whether ultimately he has the mental toughness required to play at the highest level though remains a big question. However, I think Rowett has obviously told him what direction he's heading and he's seen the transfer rumours so this article is either to remind Rowett what he has, put himself in the shop window or both. As for LB, Olsson is decent, just not as good as Fozzy (who is the the best LB in the league!) and doesn't have Lowe's potential. But Olsson could be a left back for a top 6 rival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, BramcoteRam84 said: As for LB, Olsson is decent, just not as good as Fozzy (who is the the best LB in the league!) and doesn't have Lowe's potential. But Olsson could be a left back for a top 6 rival. I was with you until you said that, he's not that good, would be very happy if we shipped him and Christie out for decent money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 hour ago, BramcoteRam84 said: Considering what we paid for him, Cyrus has been a good player for Derby. I also think he has potential to play at a higher level and is no where near as bad as some make out. He is unplayable when on his game, and played well for 3/4 of his first season, most of the clement season and then played until injury last season. When he's bad however, he's horrendous and it's these performances people remember, even when in a lot of these games other players are having mares!! On his day he is one of the best in the league but as much as he talks himself up, he's a confidence player, if things go wrong he goes to pieces. Maybe Rowett will complete him by improving his game defensively, whether ultimately he has the mental toughness required to play at the highest level though remains a big question. However, I think Rowett has obviously told him what direction he's heading and he's seen the transfer rumours so this article is either to remind Rowett what he has, put himself in the shop window or both. As for LB, Olsson is decent, just not as good as Fozzy (who is the the best LB in the league!) and doesn't have Lowe's potential. But Olsson could be a left back for a top 6 rival. Best post in the thread. Right on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkeram7 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Thinks he's the best full back in the league, deluded! Baird puts him to shame and he's 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbylad92 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Hes just an average championship player nothing more! Hes good at running with the ball, attacking players but not so great defensively and only 1 in 5 of his crosses are decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Chrisite's main faults highlighted in the first 15 seconds of this video. Tries to do too much with the ball, doesn't try to get back into position quickly enough, bad postioning (standing on top of Keogh) and then indecisive when the ball comes to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsdubs Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just backs up what I said in another thread. He told someone I know he's going and this just seems to indicate he's off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 A surprising stat that sky put up before the playoff final, apologies if it's been mentioned further back. He had the 3rd most assists from a defender this season behind the two Huddersfield fullbacks. Make of that what you will personally thought he was average all season tbh. Edit: chances created not assists! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 51 minutes ago, clarkeram7 said: Thinks he's the best full back in the league, deluded! Baird puts him to shame and he's 35 Baird is a hugely experienced ex international defender he knows what he is best at and he knows what he can't do christie is still learning and hasn't worked out what he is good at and what he needs to stop doing another major scenario is the fact that Christie has one year left which means he signs another contract extension or is sold this transfer window or in January as we can't afford to watch a young international defender just walk away for nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 15 minutes ago, Sparkle said: christie is still learning and hasn't worked out what he is good at and what he needs to stop doing...! From what he says he's not 'still learning' is he though. Better sell before he sees out his contract for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: From what he says he's not 'still learning' is he though. Better sell before he sees out his contract for sure. Hence he is still learning ! ( but yes sell if we are not long term going to use him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Just now, Sparkle said: Hence he is still learning ! ( but yes sell if we are not long term going to use him) You can lead a horse to water but Christie ain't drinking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: You can lead a horse to water but Christie ain't drinking! I do have sympathies for Christie because for the last two seasons our only main out ball has been the goalkeeper to the right back on the halfway line to win a header as we couldn't anywhere else upfield, he still has potential and time to get a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Baird is a hugely experienced ex international defender he knows what he is best at and he knows what he can't do christie is still learning and hasn't worked out what he is good at and what he needs to stop doing another major scenario is the fact that Christie has one year left which means he signs another contract extension or is sold this transfer window or in January as we can't afford to watch a young international defender just walk away for nothing! He's 24 going on 25 and has been playing league football for the last 6 years. If you're playing 4 at the back then first and foremost the full backs need to be defensively sound, if it's a 5-man backline then the wing backs need pace, athleticism (which Christie has) plus the ability to deliver the right cross, at the right pace to the right area (which he more often than not fails to do). So irrespective of the formation(s) Rowett decides on, we need an upgrade at RB, with Baird there as back-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Has a year left in his contract, is not in first team plans and is clearly sellable asset. I don't think we need Sherlock in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 i'm all for players knowing what they can do when they can actually do it. Christie is a so so fullback in my opinion and apparently not willing to learn to adapt and improve his game. One year left on the contract, with an uncertain future at the club, sell while we can get a decent fee for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Sparkle said: Hence he is still learning ! ( but yes sell if we are not long term going to use him) He's not improved since he's been at Derby. He's stagnated at the same, inconsistent level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted McMinn Football Genius Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 Lets not beat about the bush... Last season I spent the majority of the season being infuriated by what a fckin liability he is. Sell, Sell, Sell. ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkeram7 Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 He's an international, sell him while he's worth something ? we could fetch maybe 2 million if we find the right club. Go and get Wisdom with that ? strong, quick and can defend as well! We'll have Lowe or Forsyth galloping up the left side. A new centre half would be nice as well.. defensively we've not been good enough, that's where the major changes need to happen. The firepower is there, defenders and a better balance in midfield please Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, clarkeram7 said: He's an international, sell him while he's worth something ? we could fetch maybe 2 million if we find the right club. Go and get Wisdom with that ? strong, quick and can defend as well! We'll have Lowe or Forsyth galloping up the left side. A new centre half would be nice as well.. defensively we've not been good enough, that's where the major changes need to happen. The firepower is there, defenders and a better balance in midfield please Gary Wisdom ain't coming here. Let it go. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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