RadioactiveWaste Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 2 hours ago, sage said: Let's put bring in NC as Director of Football and keep Steve Mac as First Team Coach. Easy. But Nigel's first action as DoF would to remove McClaren and install Andy Garner. Cest la way du Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkleyram Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 20 hours ago, CLOUGH1971-72 said: So the name of the thread (clough and burton) have taken 4 points from us this season and kept 2 clean sheets. Clough should still be derby manager and we'd be half way up the premiership now and nobody can say otherwise because we've proven to be a failure having invest 150 million and still being in the same position. If if clough had that investment we'd be laughing. No wonder this threads quiet We wouldn't be half way up the premiership now. And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 20 hours ago, CLOUGH1971-72 said: So the name of the thread (clough and burton) have taken 4 points from us this season and kept 2 clean sheets. Clough should still be derby manager and we'd be half way up the premiership now and nobody can say otherwise because we've proven to be a failure having invest 150 million and still being in the same position. If if clough had that investment we'd be laughing. No wonder this threads quiet Never in a month of Sundays would we be in the PL - still in the Championship, playing sterile football to 18-20,000. He did what needed to be done at the time and did it as well as anyone could have hoped for but no way would he have got us promoted. Did anyone work out where Andy Garner got his £150m spend figure from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted February 22, 2017 Share Posted February 22, 2017 21 hours ago, CLOUGH1971-72 said: So the name of the thread (clough and burton) have taken 4 points from us this season and kept 2 clean sheets. Clough should still be derby manager and we'd be half way up the premiership now and nobody can say otherwise because we've proven to be a failure having invest 150 million and still being in the same position. If if clough had that investment we'd be laughing. No wonder this threads quiet No clueless NLN would take us to mid table to bottom 4 in Non league... Clueless manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Wolfie20 said: Never in a month of Sundays would we be in the PL - still in the Championship, playing sterile football to 18-20,000. He did what needed to be done at the time and did it as well as anyone could have hoped for but no way would he have got us promoted. Did anyone work out where Andy Garner got his £150m spend figure from? Mel's invested about £100,000,000 in the academy I think it was revealed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 On 22/02/2017 at 02:50, CLOUGH1971-72 said: So the name of the thread (clough and burton) have taken 4 points from us this season and kept 2 clean sheets. Clough should still be derby manager and we'd be half way up the premiership now and nobody can say otherwise because we've proven to be a failure having invest 150 million and still being in the same position. If if clough had that investment we'd be laughing. No wonder this threads quiet Deluded. And you accuse another poster of having no knowledge of football. This thread is probably quiet because the whole argument had been done to death. It's only really been re-awoken by your silly claims that (a) nobody could argue we would be mid-table Prem and (b) we have spent £150m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 5 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: Deluded. And you accuse another poster of having no knowledge of football. To be fair he had a point with me yesterday, that's why I couldn't ban him for speaking the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, David said: To be fair he had a point with me yesterday, that's why I couldn't ban him for speaking the truth. You've never even come close to some of the silly claims @CLOUGH1971-72 is coming out with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: You've never even come close to some of the silly claims @CLOUGH1971-72 is coming out with. Give me chance it's only Thursday! After yesterday I did have a quick search as I didn't recognise the username, at first I thought it was a banned member returning. 98% of posts are Clough related, be it Nigel or Brian. Suddenly it made perfect sense. I must have been caught up with the Clough "haters" as I held the opinion we were right to replace him. I don't "hate" the bloke at all, even my strong dislike for Robbie Savage doesn't step into hatred. I understand the Clough history, even why Ronnie jumps on to defend him. I don't understand why it's not ok to simply not rate him as a manager, not saying he's bad manager, I didn't find the football entertaining and the frustrated by the negativity. Just a personal opinion, struggle to see how that could stop any member posting on here, not like I'm on my own with it. Say there's far more vocal than myself on this but hey ho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnieronalde Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 31 minutes ago, David said: Give me chance it's only Thursday! After yesterday I did have a quick search as I didn't recognise the username, at first I thought it was a banned member returning. 98% of posts are Clough related, be it Nigel or Brian. Suddenly it made perfect sense. I must have been caught up with the Clough "haters" as I held the opinion we were right to replace him. I don't "hate" the bloke at all, even my strong dislike for Robbie Savage doesn't step into hatred. I understand the Clough history, even why Ronnie jumps on to defend him. I don't understand why it's not ok to simply not rate him as a manager, not saying he's bad manager, I didn't find the football entertaining and the frustrated by the negativity. Just a personal opinion, struggle to see how that could stop any member posting on here, not like I'm on my own with it. Say there's far more vocal than myself on this but hey ho. I'd agree with you there David. it is OK to not rate him. That's probably why you and me have had very few "direct" confrontations, with you only ever really getting involved in your role as board owner. You and a few others have a way of making it clear you don't rate him without throwing around **** tags like clueless, classless and NLN. I don't give a monkeys if someone doesn't rate him, their prerogative. What I've got a strong dislike for is the numpties who pull his character apart to make a point and/or the numpties who seem to hate him for destroying Derby County when there are others who've done actual damage to the club and not just imaginary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Don't think I've ever seen one person say Nigel destroyed the club. Guilty of a Non League Nigel thread a few weeks back during the Forest speculation although that was for our resident Reds that gave him the nickname. Fun and games over anything personal. Can't speak for everyone but quite a few clueless and NLN comments are probably from boredom of this Groundhog Day topic. I'm sure if Burton stay up we'll have another 2 rounds next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaftesbury st Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Think we all agree in some fashion or other that Nigel stabilised the club to enable Steve to keep us in this division albeit flirting with the top six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunnyhill60 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Hardly flirting - we have made the play-offs twice and only missed out in the final game in the three completed seasons since we gave Nigel his P45. Sadly the other Nigel made a repeat in the 4th a bit more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnieronalde Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 WARNING!!!! The link contains a nice article which is an interview with Shaun Barker on his recovery and his return to playing. Don't read it if you're not interested. Thought most of you might like to read how Barks is getting on these days. https://mattyroper.wordpress.com/2017/03/02/exclusive-interview-perseverance-pays-off-for-barker/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted March 2, 2017 Share Posted March 2, 2017 1 hour ago, ronnieronalde said: WARNING!!!! The link contains a nice article which is an interview with Shaun Barker on his recovery and his return to playing. Don't read it if you're not interested. Thought most of you might like to read how Barks is getting on these days. https://mattyroper.wordpress.com/2017/03/02/exclusive-interview-perseverance-pays-off-for-barker/ A lovely read and gives a good insight into what man management is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 On 2.3.2017 at 21:56, ronnieronalde said: WARNING!!!! The link contains a nice article which is an interview with Shaun Barker on his recovery and his return to playing. Don't read it if you're not interested. Thought most of you might like to read how Barks is getting on these days. https://mattyroper.wordpress.com/2017/03/02/exclusive-interview-perseverance-pays-off-for-barker/ Unbelievable achievement. Another 8 op's and he'll be like me... When I saw him play after the injury, I was in tears.... Nothing but respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AucklandRam Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I love Nigel Clough. Proper blokes bloke who did underrated work at our club. A man who is loyal to the core and had honest and good intentions unlike many other people who have been and are employed by Derby, McClaren being a good example. I really hope he keeps Burton up (I think he will). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 For me, I have always liked Burton and I think that Clough is suited to them. That said, I found it hard to enjoy the football he served up at Derby. Far too often, at home, he played to not lose or to win by an odd goal. (Take the lead and then retreat into our own half). It was that negative mindset that made it so challenging to enjoy. Winning and coming away with no sense of achievement was dull and losing had me wondering why the hell I bothered going in the first place. Whilst I never called him, the point I really thought he had to go was the game against Blackburn on the first game of the season he was sacked. Took the lead, Blackburn on the ropes without any answers and we just retreat and finally give them a last minute (Leon Best!) goal. After that, I knew we'd have been looking at another 10th to 14th place in the table. When Burton came to Pride Park, seeing their "anti-football" emphasised how much more enjoyable it has been without Clough. (I do appreciate that with the resources he has at Burton, that is their best chance of getting points, but it was turgid.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnieronalde Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 4 hours ago, maydrakin said: For me, I have always liked Burton and I think that Clough is suited to them. That said, I found it hard to enjoy the football he served up at Derby. Far too often, at home, he played to not lose or to win by an odd goal. (Take the lead and then retreat into our own half). It was that negative mindset that made it so challenging to enjoy. Winning and coming away with no sense of achievement was dull and losing had me wondering why the hell I bothered going in the first place. Whilst I never called him, the point I really thought he had to go was the game against Blackburn on the first game of the season he was sacked. Took the lead, Blackburn on the ropes without any answers and we just retreat and finally give them a last minute (Leon Best!) goal. After that, I knew we'd have been looking at another 10th to 14th place in the table. When Burton came to Pride Park, seeing their "anti-football" emphasised how much more enjoyable it has been without Clough. (I do appreciate that with the resources he has at Burton, that is their best chance of getting points, but it was turgid.) I won't disagree with the sentiments in your posts maydrakin and my response is aimed at football as a whole and not you saying NC is negative. BUT if I could ban two words or phrases from football it would be turgid AND anti football. A load of codswallop introduced to the game by the "super" pundits who are only on the tele cos they can't get or keep a job. Or attention seeking fans from overseas who only ever either watch online or use stats to judge. I see the word turgid bandied around by loads of people these days, people who can't enjoy a nil-nil or recognise when a team might need to scrap for their lives to get a point or 3. Nowt wrong with proper battling football. I'll tell you what is turgid. Watching a team with 80% possession pass the ball 76 times across their own half before advancing 3 metres and starting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 5 hours ago, maydrakin said: When Burton came to Pride Park, seeing their "anti-football" emphasised how much more enjoyable it has been without Clough. (I do appreciate that with the resources he has at Burton, that is their best chance of getting points, but it was turgid.) Trust me, there is a lot more "pro" than "anti-football" at the Pirelli than some would have you believe, even with the limited resources Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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