Bris Vegas Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 England just need a system, and then stick to it. I like how we can play direct, fast football and if anything as a nation we could get right behind a team if they underdogs. Italy should be a shining example to us. Look at their team! Antonio Conte has ditched the big stars. He plays 3-5-2, and he took 23 players who fit into his identity and system. They're saying in Italy that this is their worst team ever, yet so far they've comofrotably beat tournament favourites Spain and Belgium simply by sticking to the plan. Every player knows his role. It's really not rocket science. We should go 4-4-2 (let's say), and just ditch any player (no matter how good they are) that doesn't fit into the system, regardless of who they play for. Not taking Andy Carroll when he would have been absolutely ideal is a travesty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I'm still struggling to understand why Kane gives freekicks and corners. If he could bend it lik Becks but ffs. He makes Ronaldo look like freekick specialist. OK, that might be too harsh but let's say Jamie Ward. He may have good shooting technique in training but like last night (and season) showed, football nowadays is more about mentality than skills. Often individual playing skill differences are too small to make the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRamFan Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Well done Iceland, you guys wanted it and you got the rewards. England just a bunch of over payed over rated nobodies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Can't understand what happened to Roy. You would have expected his team to be a bit boring but well drilled and organised. We ended up looking a total shambles with 5 centre forwards on the pitch, the likes of Sturridge coming right back into hus own half behind the midfield to pick the ball up. And the set pieces? They were a new level of bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 In the last 15 minutes of the first half you knew how the rest of the game was going to go. No guile, no craft, no idea how to move between the lines. The only way this group of players will improve would be for Man City to buy the whole squad and have Pep coach them for a year. No manager on this planet will be able to instill a satifactory system that our technically inferior players could grasp, when they've only got a few weeks a year to work with them. Fair play to Iceland, they've shown what can happen if your country's representative body spends top dollar on grassroots coaches and infastructure instead of spunking £700m on a white elephant national stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 All the England games have been just like watching Derby last season. I don't think it's the system as such - we did win 10 qualifying games. The players just look afraid on the big stage. That second half with all the basic simple errors - the players just looked terrifed and frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 i just read again my last post and wow was i drunk with spirits and euphoria. The legendary Gummi Ben was pleased as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, ramit said: i just read again my last post and wow was i drunk with spirits and euphoria. The legendary Gummi Ben was pleased as well fancy a job managing England, we could do with some of that passion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 1 hour ago, MB (Wolfie) said: All the England games have been just like watching Derby last season. I don't think it's the system as such - we did win 10 qualifying games. The players just look afraid on the big stage. That second half with all the basic simple errors - the players just looked terrifed and frozen. One of the easiest Qualifying groups we've ever had, and very few of those wins were actually all that convincing. The difference was our players were still playing club football as we were qualifying so the confidence was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 The music makes this 10x better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 How did this happen? Lets get real here, England have far superior players to Iceland's, but the team is poor, it lacks structure, players don't know their roles and Hodgson fielding 5 forwards in this game was just stupid and arrogant. Where is the motivation, the pride for playing for your country, the determination and focus and why oh why do England fans boo their team when things aren't working out on the pitch? In that respect we are ahead of you, we would never ever boo our team, they are us and we are them, we are the twelfth player in the squad. Heart, teamwork and desire and good honest unwavering tactics won the day. Am not here to rub it in my friends, i want to see England succeed and live up to it's potential, but to do so is to go back to the basics from top to bottom. For every 500 inhabitants in Iceland there is a all weather football field, every village has one even, in England it's 1 for every 5000. The coaching needs to be better qualified all the way to the youngest ages. Don't make the mistake of arguing among yourselves or dismissing England's hopes of improving, just do it right and stick together. That is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, ramit said: How did this happen? Lets get real here, England have far superior players to Iceland's, but the team is poor, it lacks structure, players don't know their roles and Hodgson fielding 5 forwards in this game was just stupid and arrogant. Where is the motivation, the pride for playing for your country, the determination and focus and why oh why do England fans boo their team when things aren't working out on the pitch? In that respect we are ahead of you, we would never ever boo our team, they are us and we are them, we are the twelfth player in the squad. Heart, teamwork and desire and good honest unwavering tactics won the day. Am not here to rub it in my friends, i want to see England succeed and live up to it's potential, but to do so is to go back to the basics from top to bottom. For every 500 inhabitants in Iceland there is a all weather football field, every village has one even, in England it's 1 for every 5000. The coaching needs to be better qualified all the way to the youngest ages. Don't make the mistake of arguing among yourselves or dismissing England's hopes of improving, just do it right and stick together. That is all You've got a bit more space than we have @ramit to have pitches. Spivs and property developers bought a lot of our playing fields in the bigger towns and cities down the years. For the public of Southampton (popn c180,000) there are 2 sports centres with about a dozen pitches for hire. There are some others available in schools (out of hours). Grass can be even more difficult. In some local villages, the limited open spaces are taken by a cricket team who won't allow it to be used for anything but cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, HantsRam said: You've got a bit more space than we have @ramit to have pitches. Spivs and property developers bought a lot of our playing fields in the bigger towns and cities down the years. For the public of Southampton (popn c180,000) there are 2 sports centres with about a dozen pitches for hire. There are some others available in schools (out of hours). Grass can be even more difficult. In some local villages, the limited open spaces are taken by a cricket team who won't allow it to be used for anything but cricket. You have a valid point, but it seems to me that local administrations should own those pitches, not property developers. Many of our pitches are artificially turfed and not full sized. There must be a way of building roofed football halls in some places also. i don't know the local problems you face and maybe should just shut my gob about it, still i firmly believe that where there is a will there's a way. Thanks for not being irate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I don't know why people are surprised by the result.I have been banging on for years that Hodgson was a hopeless and clueless manager. I looked at him after the game,he looked lost and confused like a lollipop man looking for his pole,might be his next job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I think Italy will win the tournament, because they have everything Iceland have + better players. But I genuinely wouldn't be shocked to see Iceland beat France. They're far better from set pieces than England, which would be my concern from an Icelandic perspective but their defending isn't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I don't like the lad myself, but this attitude is surely out of place in the dressing room? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 And as for the Wales Football Club's attitude towards last nights game and result...... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36652412 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted June 28, 2016 Author Share Posted June 28, 2016 Steve just has no luck at all There are better quality versions of this but the giggles at the end are too good to leave out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I would have thought he would have wanted to keep a low profile after the season he's just had but it appears his ego knows no bounds. He's become a bit of a laughing stock to me I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarRam Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I know it has been bad but we have no right to think that Iceland would be a walk over. They did really well in there qualifying group as the Netherlands will testify. Simple fact is that we have had bad times before (1988 Euro's and the Taylor and Mcclaren years for example) and we need to stop making excuses about grass roots football and building for the future. Iceland and Wales this year and Greece and Denmark in previous Euros have shown what can be achieved with less skilled players that want to work hard and win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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