DarkFruitsRam7 Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Lay off @curtains, let's draw this thing to a close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 1 minute ago, sage said: Are we still talking about Curtains? Very much so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, BurtonRam7 said: Lay off @curtains, let's draw this thing to a close. Just stringing him along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, Mafiabob said: 11 goals and 7 assists suggests to me he's fairly interested.... Really? That's not a good metric. Sounds more like something you would say if you haven't been watching Ince play and just look at stats. How many seconds do you have to be interested to get 11 goals and 7 assists... For large parts of this season he has often stood in space on his heels unmarked sulking. That's not me saying I don't like him or rate him. Heck I was one of very few people who was raving when we first signed him on loan and he hadn't even kicked a ball for us. His return is good but it could be amazing. I would love to know exactly what other people think his downfalls are. Because the people I sit with/near and talk to all think pretty much the same thing. Think he sulks a fair bit, is a bit too indecisive and is capable of more, even when he bags a hat trick or brace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Curtains?................................Lord of the rings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 28 minutes ago, Uptherams said: Really? That's not a good metric. Sounds more like something you would say if you haven't been watching Ince play and just look at stats. How many seconds do you have to be interested to get 11 goals and 7 assists... For large parts of this season he has often stood in space on his heels unmarked sulking. That's not me saying I don't like him or rate him. Heck I was one of very few people who was raving when we first signed him on loan and he hadn't even kicked a ball for us. His return is good but it could be amazing. I would love to know exactly what other people think his downfalls are. Because the people I sit with/near and talk to all think pretty much the same thing. Think he sulks a fair bit, is a bit too indecisive and is capable of more, even when he bags a hat trick or brace. Funny where different people sit and have different views, people around me absolutely adore him and see him as the main threat to do something if a game is there for the taking. Funny how I've used stats to back a point up but you've said its not a good metric to view it from... But thinking he "sulks" a little is a fair point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Could have had a hat-trick today, and played very well. Looks like he's at it and enjoying it again. Long may it continue, because I've gone whole games without seeing him produce a thing this season. Credit to Ince, credit to Wass, but I can't help wonder how much 'Arry has to do with it. I want to see us and Ince keep this kind of football going away now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 48 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: Curtains?................................Lord of the rings! Back of the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 2 hours ago, sage said: Are we still talking about Curtains? I think opinion is just too divided about curtains. We're going to have to try to meet in the middle. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Hobhead Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 He's a quality player and I feel he had a good game today. His decision making is questionable, and his set pieces were garbage. But if they'd been better he'd have scored a hat trick and assisted a couple. He's like most of our forward players in that given a few lessons, more work etc, he could play at the highest level no bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelovebelow Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Maybe Harry is our new bald Eagle. I seem to remember them being very good friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 11 hours ago, Mafiabob said: Funny where different people sit and have different views, people around me absolutely adore him and see him as the main threat to do something if a game is there for the taking. Funny how I've used stats to back a point up but you've said its not a good metric to view it from... But thinking he "sulks" a little is a fair point... You just appear to be ignoring the actual points I am making. Never said people don't adore or rate him. The reason why we think what we do is because we see him as the main threat. Hence why I think that he can top the charts for goals and assists in the league. Of course it isn't a good metric in relation to the context. Just like passing accuracy says nothing about the type of passes a player is making. The specific point is qualitative and not quantitative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Ince has been brilliant recently and I'd go as far as too say that he's probably more suited to LW than Johnson is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 He looks like a completely different player on the left. On the right he just cut inside and went for a shot. It became so predictable that defenders could easily counter him, and it also meant that his teammates stopped looking for space because they knew he wouldn't pass it to them. He also seemed to bottle every challenge. On the left he goes both ways, finds space better, actually tries to win tackles and looks to pass the ball. On the left he's one of the best players in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Must give credit where credit is due. Ince looks like the player we saw last season since Wassall has taken over and I agree, he looks like a new player on the lw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 The number of games a player has scored in can be a better measure of their impact/performance than the number of goals they've scored. Ince has scored in 8 (same as Butterfield) of his 39 appearances this season, whereas last season he scored in 8/18. Martin has scored in 13/42, whereas the previous 2 seasons it was 20/51 & 17/42 You could score 12 goals in a season, 4 hattricks, but if you've offered nothing in the other 42 matches then it doesn't really count for much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 59 minutes ago, CornwallRam said: He looks like a completely different player on the left. On the right he just cut inside and went for a shot. It became so predictable that defenders could easily counter him, and it also meant that his teammates stopped looking for space because they knew he wouldn't pass it to them. He also seemed to bottle every challenge. On the left he goes both ways, finds space better, actually tries to win tackles and looks to pass the ball. On the left he's one of the best players in the division. Been saying this all season and also same with Weimann but he still not once played on the right where he played premier league football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Wassall is the first manager we've had in the last 14 months that's actually played him on the left. Tactical genius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 18 hours ago, thelovebelow said: Maybe Harry is our new bald Eagle. I seem to remember them being very good friends. Arry and Jim were a regular feature on South today as they tore up the local football clubs. Arry took Jim to 3 jobs as his assistant. Pompey (twice ) and Southampton. They both turned an unhealthy shade of vermilionas they imbibed various shady chairmens money away ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramsbottom Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 On 4/9/2016 at 22:01, EnigmaRam said: Even when we were playing crap he's was always trying to make something happen. He's just mr cool and not into all the 50 yard sprint and dives to celebrate a goal that's so uncool!!! At least he isn't doing the knee slide, that sh**s been done to death... Now he's being given the licence to roam and get more involved he's getting back to the player we signed instead of the player PC told to stand on the byline 40 yards from goal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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