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He can be a good manager, he is a good manager

but he is the completely wrong fit for Derby County. he is not fit to manage a big club like us

the football is rubbish, the players he is signing are rubbish and the club has no direction and its not what this club is about

6 minutes ago, SK47 said:

How on earth did we sign the likes of Mcgoldrick last year for free and on minimal wages, yet this season, even with a budget, we avoided signing a striker capable of achieving anything close to what DM produced?

Collins IS NOT a first choice striker. I don't care how many times he crops up with a goal, he offers northing else to the team which leads to us being 1 dimensional. Ball out to the right, cross, clear. Ball out to the right, cross, clear. What happened to the silky football we used to play? 

Really hope drastic changes are made because this isn't it, and I'm a Warne fan

 

the warning signs were there all summer for everyone to see, we never replaced mcgoldrick and there is a fat chance we are spreading his goals around the team because nobody else can score either just like last season

i think the main thing is, you can feel patient if you see a plan developing or something building

what plan do we have? we look to have none at all, you could see is coming from a mile off based on our transfers this summer

the direction the club is going in is very worrying for me, it is going to be a long few years in this god awful division

i absolutely depise this league, i cant believe people thought it would be easy and nice to win some games or nice to see go to some new grounds ( most of them absolutely terrible)

the league is terrible and the worst bit is we belong here because we are terrible as well. the way oxfords second goal just played through us is utterly embarrasing we made them look like barcelona.

we have no direction as a club, it was all so predictable after watching our movement all summer you could spot it coming from a mile off. going to be a long season

Just now, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

I suspect Clowes can stomach a run of bad results, but if the performance is as bad as it sounds that is far more concerning.

exactly and this is my main issue. i can take losing but we need to see a vision & strategy, we just dont have any

did we scout these defenders or did we just look at the amount of appearences they had in the championship?

they really are really bad

18 minutes ago, Chester40 said:

On a match day I think it's borderline pathetic that this thread is still bubbling along (and now I'm adding to it).

One 'unlucky-ish' League defeat and fans are asking if we should move on.  Jumping from one new fangled answer to another is a large part of what got us here.

There really is no patience and it's been replaced by an incredible amount of wild supposition about what is /isn't happening behind the scenes. We (are) were 2 signings away from seemingly purchasing exactly what we needed. There is still plenty of time to do that. Talk of 'losing the dressing room' is mind boggling and even if true with 1 or 2 players then you back the manager and get rid.  

Really hope we win today and can shut this conversation down instead of always wishing for a miracle via the next big thing (Wilder, Simpson whoever).

In my opinion the discontent isn’t about 1 game it’s about the direction we appear to be heading in, there doesn’t seem to be much of a plan or strategy

its okay i am sure we have someone twice his age lined up

5 minutes ago, r4derby said:

The frustrating thing is - he’s known about these departures for a while. Didzy was earlier in Summer and interest in Knight had been around for a while. You prepare for that. You make that a priority. Instead, we’re left chasing our tails! So frustrating

mcgoldrick should have been replaced the minute we knew he wasnt signing which was very early in the window

our monuverability in the transfer market dictates it should have been done early in the summer when a wider pool of players were available

plus what is the point in getting washington & waghorn if they arent mcgoldricks replacement?

2 hours ago, Mucker1884 said:

I had that feeling before and after the QPR Final.  Similar but less emphatically for the Villa final.

Inexcusably, I also often have that feeling for most Forest games at home.

Bur Burton away... 2nd game of a third division season... with neither the league table nor the recent form having had chance to settle?

Nah.  Not even close to being a very big game, and certainly not one that will shape our history.
It's no more than a bread and butter game.  It'll neither define our history, or the season.
I suspect most of us will have forgotten the match details/stats by Christmas 2024... if not 2023!

 

each to their own i suppose, I think it will set the tone going forward if we lose this one.

i did say modern history so i suppose youi can judge that over which time period you want but for me the crowd is close to turning on warne a loss at burton wont help his cause. there are sliding doors games which only have 3 points on them but can set the tone going forward, i just think this is one of them

5 minutes ago, Pottig said:

Of which you have 1 game in the league and 1 cup game to go on, compared to a full season last year. 

Care to tell me how Plymouth Argyle got on at the beginning of last season? Didn't they get knocked out of the cup and lose a game within the first 3 matches?

okay you win, it’s obvious you can’t judge everything from one game 

but I see the direction the club is going in and I don’t like what I see

mthere is a stench around the club at the minute and it hasn’t gone away all summer. It’s obvious on paper we have not got stronger

if you think otherwise then fair play to you but you are just ignore things you don’t want to see

this may be unpopular but Conway was a really poor journalist at the time, he constantly ignored and turned a blind eye to all the things going on at the club and I don’t think he should be trying to make money out of that period either because really who wants to revisit that period

I thought he was poor at the athletic and always talked down to people as if they were below him

Just now, Pottig said:

How do you know the squad hasn't been strengthened after 1 league game? What evidence do you have to support that claim?

If you guys want to bury your head in the sand that’s fine but nobody can tell me we are stronger this season, the evidence is based on quality of player and quality of performance 

3 minutes ago, jimtastic56 said:

Would you believe it , Knight scored two very well taken goals tonight v Oxford. 

and roberts got two assists

Just now, Andicis said:

How can it be clear that we are worse than last season after 1 league game? 

Because we look worse and the squad hasn’t been strengthened if you think otherwise then fair enough but I absolutely do not agree we are stronger than last season

I don’t think it’s all about warne, I think everybody thinks it would be daft to sack warne at this point

but I think there is a lot of anxiety at the direction we are going in. We are weaker than last season that much is clear, and warne is playing some bizarre football at the minute with nothing for the fans to see what he’s building

that is the key when it comes to managers they may not deliver instantly but they need to be seen to be building something and have a plan for what’s around the corner

i think we have a real lack of direction as a club at the minute

4 hours ago, sage said:

He did accept some responsibility but he threw Bird under the bus. 

Everyone knew who he meant. Radio Derby picked up on it straight away.

It obvious.

 

I agree

warne threw him under the bus to divert attention

my worry is the dressing rooms don’t often take kindly to that kind of thing, if it’s bird this week it could be somebody else the next week

this is a very big game in our modern history

whilst Warne may not lose his job with a defeat the atmosphere around the club will really begin to change for the worst 

we as a club need a big lift after the overwhelming summer we have had and the poor end to last season

6 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said:

The 'novelty' (shall we say), of playing in L1 is starting to wear-off! 😭

yes I said near the end of last season it will grow tiresome being in this league we need to get out of it this season , it’s a big month ahead . We simply cannot linger at this level

people can paint it as fun but in my opinion it’s embarrassing being at this level and watch your star players leave to nothing clubs like Bristol and hull

5 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

Not buying it brys.

3-5 years in the prem is the outside best case for forest. The club's natural size won't be sufficient and I have doubts about the long term abilities of their owner.

Scrapped it last season doesn't mean set for success. Although you are right there's some weakening of others that may help them.

there are much smaller clubs than Forest and even us that have had longer sustained spells in the Premier league

the worry is the Prem is so weak next season they can likely stay up even if they are crap and they are half way to become established at that point

13 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

Oh give over.

We'll both be in the championship together within 3 years.

 

but it’s still wishful thinking even if that’s the case they can still financially dominate the championship because parachute payments

to think about being level with them we really needed to be in the same league as them this season

they have just brought a backup keeper that will cost more than anything we are likely to spend in the next 5 years combined we are worlds apart from competing at the minute 

It does slightly worry you and I doesn’t it 

or frustrate …

one thing is for sure warne is going to need a result at burton, the pressure will really start to be ramped up if we lose that one on staurday

i am dreading burton this saturday never thought i would say that

the most concerning thing is blackpool have changed almost their entire team and we have barely made any changes to try and get some momentum