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5 minutes ago, Leeds Ram said:

A decent point against a solid warnock team. I think especially after the second half they'll feel very unlucky not to have won. In the first half we went toe to toe and did a really good job. Bird and Shinnie did a great job controlling the ball and the front 4 provided an intermittent threat. Defensively, the big guy from wycombe we struggled with but generally we looked okay only giving away as much as they did. In that sense it was really pleasing to see us go toe to toe with a good championship team. 

Second half was pretty miserable; struggled to pass, struggled to defend and really struggled to do anything. It's only thanks to Roos, a couple of last ditch tackles and Boro's poor finishing that we got away with a point. I'm sorry but anyone thinking Stretton is better than Sibley for a prospect needs their head checking. He needs some time in the lower leagues for me before getting time here ideally. As soon as Sibley replaced we looked toothless and it only got worse once Baldock made way. I think watson made 0 impact and buchanan as a lw didn't work either. 

If Boro is closer to the skill of opposition we'll face week in week out it'll be a long season with little to shout about. A fair few people got carried away with 4 points from 3 games against relegation sides and we were very lucky not to lose today. I'd settle for 20th right now tbh over the course of the season and try to build from there. I'm not really blaming anyone it's just obvious we're quite bad and there's not much we can do about it. 

Wow. So completely different to my view

Boro very lucky to get away with a point. Many examples, but i would point to Louis’ shot when through on goal in the 86th minute

Stretton was absolutely brilliant when he came on and very nearly won it at the end. Even Boros monsters couldn't knock him off the ball. 

Watson always looking to get on the ball and we all know and could see Buchanans ability in the air and up the line

Could I respectfully ask - were you at the game today ? Derby County v Middlesborough 21 August 2021 ? That one ? 

5 minutes ago, Yani P said:

Why???? I mean love the dramatic over reaction to whatever it was that appalled you but would love to know what it was....

It was so appalling that If you really needed an explanation, it was more appalling than I originally thought 

1 minute ago, Anag Ram said:

Stretton is a better prospect than Sibley.

Sibley is no better now than two years ago. He needs room to manoeuvre because his close control isn’t great. He won’t get much of that in the championship.

He doesn’t really demand the ball. He hacks rather than tackling and his final ball is poor.

I struggle to see the excitement. He is young and may develop but my own thinking is he lacks the maturity to do so. He’s a better sub than starter.

Stretton by comparison is composed under pressure and not afraid to use his strength.

 

Not so sure

Sibley makes things happen

Denied by a brilliant save by their keeper 

He knows, his manager knows, the whole crowd knows … unless he cuts out the petulance and poor discipline he has no future as a professional footballer. Which would be very sad, although inevitable. 

What a great afternoon it was today at PP

So proud of the whole crowd who were obviously also delighted to be there

And also a word for the Boro fans - every one of them were clapping the video announcement of the passing of our oldest supporter, pre match . Very well done to them . 

And thank goodness their young fan, who was taken out around half time, is now ok - it looked truly horrible

Thats my last word of thanks to Middlesborough ! 
 
What a truly dreadful and appalling team. All down to their manager of course. Anti-football at its worst. No wonder young people are finding other activities to focus on. 
 

As for us - marvellous , and unlucky not to win in my opinion (although I am bias of course). Every one of them was magnificent today. 
 

Special words to : 

Roos - his saves are winning us points now 

Byrne - at half time it looked like he would have to be taken off, such was his litany of calamities. Responded absolutely fantastically in the second half

Joz - really put in a shift (as they say !) and seemed really up for it today. As long as you dont need a header, just blast it at his body and he will control it in a nanosecond 

Davies and Jag - the Masters 

Stretton - see Joz comments above. Nearly got us a winner when it looked physically impossible to shoot 

The Crowd - wow ! 

4 hours ago, Yani P said:

That wasn't a game to bring Watson on which just highlights our lack of options right now..even Stretton wasn't ideal but thought he actually battled really well to remove his cloak of invisibility.. 

what an appalling post

4 hours ago, dcfcreece1601 said:

Any reason why we are good in the 1st half and poor in the second half EVERY single game we ever play in existence?

We were good in both halves - albeit in different ways 

4 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

I'm not convinced with bringing these teenagers on in this one .

They did fantastic - have faith ! 

26 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said:

 

Best news I’ve had all week. 

Looked a horrible, desperate situation 

Thank goodness for that 

5 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

No I wasn't there today - I was at the Salford and Notts County friendlies and the Huddersfield game.

To preempt the next question I'm struggling to function on a day to day level, you may get a flavour of this if you read some of my posts in the Anxiety and Depression thread on the Jim Smith forum but anyhows didn't feel upto going today for that reason. 

I haven't seen any of those posts I'm afraid and i am very sorry to hear of your situation Tyler

Many of us have experience, including myself, of your difficulty.

I am trying not to come across as condescending or all knowing (because I am not) - it is really great that you are talking openly about it. And because of that I know (even if you don't yet ) that you will come out the other side.

One of the keys to it, I believe, is having genuine human interaction. Social media can be great, but its not like the real thing ! 

If you wanted to meet up and have a chat about all things Derby County I would be delighted to do that. If and when you felt comfortable. 

20 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

I agree that the atmosphere for example at Huddersfield was excellent.

My concern is that the club at the moment cannot afford literally to disenfranchise fans to make them stay away from games whether they shout and clap when they're there or moan like drains as others will have you know. 

Can I respectfully ask if you were there today Tyler ? 

23 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

I also don't like the comments along the line of well if they're not coming to games then they can't be true supporters - if the club are disenfranchising people enough to make them stay away from games then that's absolutely unacceptable.

I’m not sure people are really saying this.

But it is interesting that the atmosphere at todays game, with just over 16000 fans, was better than the vast majority of games (over 15 years season ticket holder) I have attended where there were over 25000. There was a togetherness and happiness in each others company that was fantastic to experience.

I agree that the club have not helped themselves in numerous and well documented ways, which is why the crowd was so comparatively low. Personally, I’m actually pretty amazed that it as large as it is ! 

34 minutes ago, Eatonram said:

Not sure if crowds are down everywhere, butter drop in support though the gate is a bit alarming. Have we lost 1000s for good? Will we get back to over 20k when the season tickets are sold? Got to be a concern. This team I feel would benefit from the encouragement you get from passionate vocal support.

I’m not sure if you were at the game but it was a fantastic atmosphere today. 

At both half time and full time it was as if we had won/ were winning !

You don't need to worry about there not being passionate support - it was there in absolute spades today. And the team certainly benefitted from it. There’s a bit of Dunkirk spirit going on I think, amongst both the fans and the players. And to be sure, the players deserved that support today - there was a passion and togetherness about them all that was fantastic to see. On top of that there was some really good football from our lads and they stood up and refused to be bullied by that anti-football team led by the Chief Anti-football Manager. 

I must be alone in thinking that we were only going to have 10-15 thousand attendances for at least the first half of the season

What with Covid, our 8000 season tickets holders, the difficulty for the club in making concrete plans, disillusionment with Mel, appalling PR, doom and gloom over the quality of the team etc etc etc

I'm absolutely astonished that we are looking at more like 15 - 20000

It really does show what magnificent support our club has

When did we last beat Boro at home ? Might just be my ageing poor memory though. They seem to be a bogey team for us

It would be so good to beat Gibson and Warnock , who has to be the most biased and unreasonable manager ever - its always someone else's fault !

Again, if my memory serves us right his defeat against us when Leeds manager spelt him doom 

Goddard .  v Boro perhaps ?

2 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said:

Chris Hughton, a name that has been mentioned on this board as an experienced manager we should/could have bought in after Cocu was fired, is doing really well at Notts Forest, 3 games in and the cognoscenti in the Trent End are screaming you don’t know what your doing and demanding he is fired after 3 games. My point is that any managerial appointment is a crap shoot and can end in disaster no matter what the length of managerial experience, therefore I would state categorically our manager is not doing badly as a novice. 
 

If not for the 11 minutes of Gibson time at Peterborough we would now be top of the league, I for one am very happy with the current situation at the Rams

The final whistle is the end of the game 

51 minutes ago, sage said:

I posted earlier with general glee. It was a critique of an evaluation rather than a criticism. When we win, I often look where we can improve and when we lose i tend to look for the positives.

1 hour ago, sage said:

I posted earlier with general glee. It was a critique of an evaluation rather than a criticism. When we win, I often look where we can improve and when we lose i tend to look for the positives.    

Definitely going to use that phrase in the future - masterful ! 

(tin hat on, inevitable, last word, riposte expected imminently….. ) 

20 hours ago, sage said:

Which bit did you disagree with?

Pretty sure you will know.
Just thought it strange to celebrate a huge win and our first in months by criticising a couple of the players before saying anything positive. 
 

9 minutes ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

Wow! What a result. What a performance! Only criticism is it should’ve been more comfortable, could have been 3 up by half time. So many good performances, pleased for Baldock, thought Bird was stand out for me but Jags Davies Morrison Joz Sibley and the full backs deserve a mention, Byrne back on form tonight after a shaky start to the season.
 

Attacking exciting football and defensive resilience. Players in Baldock Jags and Morrison who really want to be here. Rosenior spoke brilliantly after the game, class from Rooney to let him do the interview. Said Rooney keeps everyone calm (including him) and is a natural born leader. 
 

Our only issue is we don’t have a squad so Rooney was limited with the changes he could make. Only option was to defend it out. 
 

It’s early days but 4 points from the first 3 games is solid enough. More positives than negatives, but I’m loving this team and the way we’re going about it, the players and the coaching staff. Mel and Stephen are making a Horlicks of everything off the field but the playing staff are doing everything they can to bring pride back and help the fans connect again. I’m a super proud fan and I’m backing them to the hilt. Can’t wait for my first trip to PP this season on Saturday against Boro. Extra incentive for that one

And the red dogs lost………….again!! ????

Its a beautiful evening ?? ???

So many buts…..

25 minutes ago, sage said:

I thought Shinnie was poor and Sibley faded but what a win. Bird was superb. 

Blimey

Each to their own 

9 minutes ago, San Fran Van Rams said:

Baldock did ok and got a goal. 

Hardest person in the world to please …….???

6 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

To say we have the slowest (cleverest) central defensive pairing in the league, Hull didn’t once look to get in behind which made it comfortable for us.

Boro will be similar at the weekend with their lumps upfront. I reckon we will beat them too if we play the same way.

23 minutes ago, rammieib said:

Does anyone else worry about the lack of physical presence in this team.

Dropping Forsyth basically leaves us with Davies and Jagielka to win anything coming in. If we concede set pieces, that’ll be a real killer for us tonight.

I also just struggle to see goals in this line up sadly.

I hope we scrape something out but this team on paper is not a good team. However - I also agree it’s all we have right now and that’s not the players fault, or Rooneys.

Buchanan is pretty good at headers …..

1 hour ago, brady1993 said:

Buchanan, Sibley and Jagielka in the team will improve us. Very harsh on Stretton to not start and perhaps sends the wrong message but it's not surprising either. We will like do better with Baldock up front than CKR mind. Still feel like we won't solve the crux of the tactical issues until Shinnie is replaced.

Stretton will come on at some point - cant blame the managers for ‘managing’ a young player into his first team career.

Brady - why the comment about Shinnie ? I agree, hes not had a blinding start to the new season. But, he did win supporters player of the year last season so surely must have some worth to us and the team ? 

Henry Newton ?