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2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

I think we look a level below Ipswich here. And the Port Vale defeat was mainly down to the red card.

Couldn’t care less about the Pizza Trophy.

It’s not been a great start. But not terrible either. 

Warne will need to change this team though. The defence is poor. The midfield lacks energy. Wingbacks are out of position. And strikers are loanees.

We’ve cobbled together a squad which just isn’t Warne-like at all.

It should still be good enough for a run at the playoffs. But our record in them wouldn’t give me much hope.

Sorry Bris not a chance; this team playing this style of football are going nowhere. Think we are in for a long dull season. 

2 minutes ago, Topram said:

It’s poor but in the long run if it works and gets us back up it’ll be just fine 

But these are the teams we have to compete with if we want to get back up. We haven’t had a single shot on goal or strung more than 2 passes together all game.

We could play all weekend and not score here. Boring as hell.

2-0 Ipswich 

8 hours ago, jameso said:

Are you basing that on the Port Vale game, both league games where PW picked his best available side, or all 3 games he's taken charge of (including Mansfield)?

Did you watch the Cambridge game and if so did you feel the same after that one?

No, I'm basing my views on seeing the way his Rotherham teams played when he was in charge and seeing something of the same style on Saturday, when we played some very poor football after the goal and ended up losing to a very average side. I don't like his style of football but we're in it for the long haul and so I hope he has the ability to adapt the style of play to the players we have.  

13 hours ago, Archie said:

Like you, I'm really pleased we have a football team to support. The uncertainty has been horrible for the last 15 months. Glad we're still in the game.

To answer your questions:

1. Yes I think he should have stuck with LR. There was so much goodwill around he really couldn't lose (I don't know the financial ins and outs). Signing PW and his team on a 4 year deal in our current situation was reckless imo. We didn't need to do it. Ratchets up the pressure on everyone at the club. 

2. The team was assembled for LR's approach and good enough to compete in the league but not for PW. 

3. Agree. But equally wish Clowes had given LR more time as well. Works both ways.

People are saying give PW more time and rightly so but I'm not sure what more time will show other than being better at the same approach. I don't think I can stomach it. I just don't think this is how football should be played. Once again, just my opinion. Good managers should be able to pick a style depending on the squad of players they have to work with. From what we have seen so far, I don't think PW has the ability nor desire to do this. 

I'm not being alarmist but really hope Cowles hasn't made a massive blunder here. 

We all knew what we were getting when PW was appointed so why is anyone surprised? It’s unsophisticated industrial football that on the whole bypasses midfield. Saturday was dreadful and was a case of different style, same result. We have no choice but to get behind PW but personally I think he’s a poor choice of manager for our club.

35 minutes ago, Archied said:

We had a lead against Plymouth but still lost playing possession football 

Against the best team in the division who are now league leaders, not one that was sat 5th from bottom before the game.

1 hour ago, SaffyRam said:

Dreadful football, worse than watching Rowettball. It’s going to be a very, very long season. But, hey he wears a funny bobble hat ?

 

p.s. I’m usually a happy clapper.

Better get used to it Saffy, we’re stuck with him, his football and his ‘quirky’ interviews for the next 4 years…

Poor performance, midfield was non existent - Bird/Hourihane both crap, officials dire but these are the teams we have to beat to have any hope of challenging for promotion. Might be early days but didn’t see anything at all that was an improvement on what I’ve seen under LR. So deflating after last week.

Country over club for me at that stage of a major tournament but doubt it will be an issue; the EFL will move games back. 

14 hours ago, i-Ram said:

It’s a good question. Bit surprised it came from you though.

l suppose I am being a little unfair to Warne. It is the Club that seem to be hyping him up, with Owen Bradley gushing around him like a pubescent schoolgirl with a crush. Perhaps quite difficult for Warne to dampen down all the flattering small talk, and it’s easier to run with the ‘yeah, you’re not wrong, I am indeed a likeable, relatable, amusing kind of guy’.

I guess I am just a bit old school. Fwiw I take the view that a more measured approach would have been better over the last week and a bit.
Firstly because I think we should have been more respectful to Liam Rosenior. Not saying Liam was going to cut it, or indeed that he shouldn’t have been stood down, but the guy did a lot of good work for the club particularly during his final 15 months, and he deserved a lot better in my view with regards to the manner of his departure. A few lines on a website - thanks Liam, good luck, whatever.

Secondly because we have signed Paul Warne, not Pep Guardiola or Carlo Ancelotti or any other proven manager. He’s managed one club, one small provincial club, with clearly a lot of leeway and Bonhomie from his Chairman, and whilst he has had some promotions let’s not forget he has had a similar number of relegations. He is many ways an unknown entity, one who I hope succeeds I should emphasise, but the buzz seems to be, before he has even even managed one game, that he ‘is the man’ who is going to take us back up the leagues.

All a bit unnecessary, and premature, if you ask me. Happy to get carried away after say 10 games or so, when we are in the top 3 and playing decent football, but for me personally I would have preferred a more low key first week, with good performances and results over the weeks ahead being a more appropriate catalyst for the current love-in.

This is exactly how I’m feeling mate. All this hype for someone who comes across as a hybrid of Rowett/Holloway and who has as many relegations in his managerial record as promotions is ridiculous. I’m not interested in how many or what type of coffee he drinks, just that he gets out there, does his job and the football is at least watchable. 

Managing Derby in the Premier League on FM22. Currently 9th and 5 points off a Europa spot with 7 games to go. It’s going to be a tense afternoon. 

2 hours ago, mwram1973 said:

We'll obviously your not bothered in anyone elses opinions only your own. But here goes. He was at a tiny club with a tiny stadium and no budget,how can he compete when most teams in the championship have probably triple their budget, at least. You'd only give 4 year contracts to someone who has a successful track record at different clubs and leagues....good luck with that, unfortunately peps not available yet but I have it on good authority he's on DC's speed dial just in case. Jesus.

I’m absolutely fine with other peoples opinions but as a ST holder I’m entitled to my own opinion too, and I don’t think Warne is the right choice. I will support my club through thick and thin as I always have but I’m bitterly disappointed with this - not saying LR was the answer either but neither is hoofball and that is what Warne brings to the table.

5 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said:

When you have a £ shop budget then there's only a certain area you can shop, Making silk purses out of sows ears can be a time-consuming effort if at all, Talent in the football field either becomes an expense venture or you work within the means set out by the Chairman.

DCFC and LR had done a tremendous amount of work scouting, Ringing players/agents, Begging other teams for loans, What we have is a team on paper as good as any and arguably better that the rest in League1, What we haven't been able to do is come to terms with the style of play, Physicality and pace in this division, LRs mantra is keep ball and play through the opposition, Charlton and Lincoln away shows what happens when you lose the ball, Shrewsbury and Fleetwood shows what happens when they pack their defence.

Referring back to the "silk purses" we have them, They just need that little bit of education and mental attitude of how to go about this division, Paul Warne I would have thought knows more than most of what's needed, 1st to compete, Then to beat the others, Will he succeed...who knows, Would LR have succeeded...again who knows.

Reading the minutes that have been posted I get the feeling...rightly or wrongly that LR was finding things a little harder than maybe he 1st thought, His applauding all 4 quarters of the ground after beating WW went unnoticed by most who were there, Picked up by a poster on here, I'm sure that was LR saying thanks to all for your support.

Warne is able to mix his game up with different set ups, Teams who have watched us and knew how we played will now be wondering how will Warne set up against us ?    

I hope you’re right.

3 hours ago, mwram1973 said:

And successful 

You should give 4 year deals to managers who’ve proved themselves successful at different clubs and leagues, not someone who gets the same team relegated each time he gets them promoted.

1 hour ago, Archied said:

Is Liam a pound shop cocu?

Yes in all honesty. I’m not advocating for LR in this situation, just cannot believe we’ve given a 4 year deal to someone whose footballing style is so one dimensional. 

11 hours ago, Retro_RAM said:

What league do you think Derby are in? Can I join you in the multiverse where Derby beat Villa in the final?

I know exactly what League we are in smartarse, and I stand by my point. He’s a pound shop Rowett.

22 minutes ago, Mrso said:

There'd be animosity if they thought he was irreplaceable.  But he's a jobbing upper League 1 manager with a proven record of failure in the Championship.  It's hard for them to be sad; it's hard for us to be glad.

Don’t get the excitement about this appointment - he’s a lower league manager whose teams play a less refined version of Rowettball and whose tactical ‘nous’ is found out at Championship level every time. Poor from DC this, especially the 4 year contract.

Not impressed by the idea of Warne. He might ‘know’ League One but he sure as hell doesn’t know the Championship otherwise he wouldn’t keep taking Rotherham back down every time they get promoted. It strikes me that he’s just another meat and potatoes manager - if he was that good someone else would have come in for him by now. We should have given LR till the end of the year at least.

Rams 0 Wycombe 1

80% possession though.

7 hours ago, Crewton said:

I recall Steve McClaren's swashbuckling teams of 2013-15 and 16/17 struggling to break down teams who sat in and played on the break/direct/long ball etc, and losing a number of games 1-0. People used to moan about "no Plan B" at a time when we were playing some of the best football at Derby since the Jim Smith peak years. We couldn't solve the problem then, and now after 4 games and working under an EFL business plan, folk (not on here) are screaming for the head of a manager 4 games into his career because he hasn't solved it yet while he's trying to rebuild the playing side of the club. And we're 7th. I f'kin' give up with some of our fans.

 

No one as far as I can see is screaming for LR’s head, but the play it safe away from home template has to change. We have thrown away 5 points in our 2 away games because they were both very winnable and yet we let them slip away. The possession based game at this level isn’t going to work - teams will do exactly what Shrewsbury did and just move as a unit to frustrate us. LR has to be flexible in his tactics and work out a way of switching the play or we are in for a season of dull 0-0’s or 1-0’s (wins and losses). Early days but I worry that LR has his tactical philosophy set in stone regardless of the opposition. 
However, isn’t it nice to be moaning about football things rather than finances and administrators? COYR!

9 hours ago, Tyler Durden said:

Precisely the point I making.

Unless we're expecting said striker to score a goal with every chance they're presented with which is just cloud cuckoo land.

We weren't adventurous enough and didn't want to win the game that badly so the draw is what we deserved and we got. 

Funny how reading comments already saying we should be beating teams like Shrewsbury ? we've only been in this league for 5 minutes and already we've built up a divine right sense of entitlement.

Shrewsbury were utter garbage though so we should really be beating sides like that if we want to progress in this league, even at this early stage of the season.

Hmm, a toothless and tedious performance - Cocuesque. A point is a point but blimey that was dull.

Bloody hell what happened in that second half? Can’t go through the season playing one half of football every time! Glad we hung in there - Cashin was magnificent. Up the Football League we go…

4 minutes ago, whiteroseram said:

Mine certaintly has

Mine has too!