Jayram

Relegation, and by some distance if we don’t have new owners/investors by Christmas. We have a poorer squad than the one that nearly took us into League One last time round and the same coaching staff. Hard to find a single positive in the current climate sadly.

Rams 0 Huddersfield 3.

As someone has already said, it’s going to be a relegation battle all season - the squad even with the freebies that might come in is very poor but my expectations have been adjusted accordingly so anything other than the drop at the end of the season will be a massive result for me.

Born and bred in South East London to a family of Millwall supporters and was a Lions fan until I moved to Leicestershire aged 11. My love of the Rams really started through going to see them with a school friend around 1981/82 and then finding out a neighbour across the road was a season ticket holder who I could travel with. It was hard being a Ram at a school full of Leicester and Forest fans in the early 80’s but I never wavered and even after moving to Oxford in 1984 I still followed them and had a season ticket for years until getting a job that involved weekend working. I still travel home and away when possible with a mate from down here and still get the same buzz on match day. I wasn’t born a Ram but will die one!

2 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said:

The ultimate blame lies with the supporters, demanding new players twice a year, demanding seat prices to be lower and demanding promotion to the premiership whatever the cost. So the richest man in Derby has run out of cash and the will to carry on subsidizing a club where a  cohort  of supporters want him to “walk away now” and to “eff off” but are evidently not prepared to put their own hands in their pockets in any meaningful way. The facts are (for the benefit of corporal dictionary).The wages are being paid as evidenced by no new charges from the EFL, new potential signings do want to join the Rams as evidenced by the quantity of triallists, previous foot balling debts paid evidenced by the removal of that charge by the EFL, but no this is not enough, the fans want see Mel bankrupted all his money gone and living in a cardboard box under a railway arch, the loss of hundreds of millions of his personal money is not enough, he should be made to eff off so the baying rabble shout. My last word is be careful what you wish for you might get it, he or MSD would still own the stadium, wages would not be paid and more than a hundred employees of DCFC would lose their jobs and the club would be liquidated.
Would that give you satisfaction?

cutting ones nose off would appear to be the plastic surgery of choice for most on here.

How old are you - you sound like a petulant 13 year old. The ultimate blame lies with a man who took over ownership of a debt free football club full of talented players and coaching staff and proceeded to hire and fire managers at will, splash out ludicrous amounts of cash on bang average players based on advice from a recruitment team that included his stepson and go for ‘Hollywood’ managerial appointments instead of someone who had solid experience of managing at this level. 
As for Mel running out of money believe me he’ll be ok - the £300 million plus still in his bank account should help keep the wolves from the door. On the other hand our football club is up to its eyeballs in debt because of him.

I along with thousands of others have been putting my hand in my pocket for the best part of 40 years supporting this football club while trying to bring up a family and pay a mortgage. If I had Mel’s money I’d have spent it a damn sight more sensibly than he has so I’m not taking a lecture from the likes of you about it.

The state Mel Morris has left this football club in is a disgrace. Not one single Derby County fan owes him anything other our contempt for the way he has wrecked our club. 

11 minutes ago, Curtains said:

Yes but Rooney had a playing career second to none. 
 

Let’s hope he can have a great managerial career 

So did Bobby Moore, Bobby Charlton, Bryan Robson etc but none were any good as managers. I don’t think being a great player necessarily means someone is cut out to be a good manager. 

1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said:

I think that team is capable of mid-table. And how many times are you expecting any team to score 4 or 5 goals?

Pointless getting yourself all miserable before a ball has even been kicked, so scoff all you like but me and Curtains are at least able to enjoy being Rams fans!!! 

Roy, we are all Rams fans and want the team to do well but realistically for me the current squad isn’t good enough for anything other than a relegation scrap. If they prove me wrong I’ll genuinely be ecstatic - I’ve got no interest in being one of those ‘I told you so’ supporters. And I’m not feeling miserable - my Rams TV subscription has been renewed, I’ve just bought a new DCFC mug and I’m at the seaside on the hottest weekend of the year - bring it on!

12 hours ago, Curtains said:

It’s not a valid point as you have no idea how our form will go. .

This is a new season. 

Yes it is new season, but with the same manager/coaching staff that led us to within 2 minutes of relegation to League One and now with an even smaller squad lacking any genuine quality up front.
I think I’ve got fair idea of where we are heading as things stand..

46 minutes ago, B4ev6is said:

Well all I am saying what I have seen same as you but masks wearing for me been major challenging and something I have not enjoyed but I have had both my jabs and I know what dangers are. But I do think borris needs to be more clear.

Even through I hate the masks but if they want me to continue to do so I will but even my mum has had enough of them she struggles to breath in them.

But like you wear by food and drink things how suppose to eat and drink stuff with out removing face covers.

Alright perhaps I miss understood stuff but for people like me with autism and any learning disability needs to be more clear.

B4 I completely understand the way you feel but public safety is paramount so the club must take things carefully. I lost a close friend to COVID this year - he contracted it from his son who had been to work (in a place where people are in close proximity to each other) and the pain his death has caused to his family, friends and our wider community has been heart rending. We all want to get back to PP but doing it safely is the most important thing. 

Jagielka is 39 in August. Surely we are not actually going to offer him a contract!

36 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said:

Never a story I'd posted before... But one none the less. When we got tanked against Rotherham back in Feb saw him at a bank in Derby. Heard someone ask him what happened against Rotherham, he told them that Rooney had them playing a formation that they had no idea how to play and no players knew their role. Hearing a player say that, no ownership for being s*#t that day and all the blame on the manager. 

Not the kind of footballer we need at the club. 

He was just being honest - if they were playing a formation they didn’t know how to play that’s on the manager. Who in my view is utterly clueless. 

39 minutes ago, Boycie said:

What are the chances of Wayne getting a siege mentality into our young squad this season?

We will add to the squad, that’s a certainty, but remember Billy’s band of brothers?

Who's as deluded as me?

Not me! Relegation battle all season as it stands, but hope springs eternal as they say!

4 hours ago, Curtains said:

Are you for real !

Yes because I’m a grown up who doesn’t seek to blame the mess we are in on those nasty EFL people as opposed to the owner of our football club. Why hasn’t the club filed accounts for the last 3 years? Why have we tried to game the system while other clubs haven’t? Mel isn’t as smart as he thinks he is and the football authorities have caught up with him, simple as that. 

6 hours ago, Coconut said:

How many more clubs are the EFL going to forcibly attempt to send into liquidation once they finally move on from us?

Their failings as an organisation have seen the end or became within a whisker of seeing the end of a handful already, there's no sign of of any conscience or sense of responsibility from them though.

They'd rather sacrifice an entire club with over 120 years of history to appease one or two playing crybaby on the assumption that we've somehow gained an advantage over them (an advantage that in reality we haven't. even. bloody. gained) and save face by constantly appealing until they get someone to tell them they're 'right'... but that's not enough, no, they then want to appeal and appeal and appeal until someone finally agrees to implement their ridiculously OTT punishment.

They've already cost us far more than anything our methods could possibly have cost anyone else.

Protecting your member clubs my arse. They don't even know the meaning of the word. Absolute ducking scum more akin to the mafia than a sporting body.

Blame Mel Morris, not the EFL. If he hadn’t tried to game the system we wouldn’t be in this position.

As it stands, relegation 100%. 
Just over 7 weeks to the start of the new season and we have no idea where the club is on ownership, we have about 13 first team players under contract, can’t buy a single player, have a very poor coaching team (manager included) and are under threat of sanction by the EFL. 

It’s so dispiriting - even the 1983/84 debacle was better than this.
 

24 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Bull poo. All matchday revenue goes to the club. The only grey area is money generated on non-match days due to hiring of rooms for conferences, etc...

There is absolutely no way Mel would put everything he possibly could to keep us right up against the P&S limit to then cut our spending power by over £10m per season.

Well that’s not the case at Oxford United who have a similar scenario with the former club owner still owning the ground and getting all the revenue from the concession sales as well as the non-football events. Let’s hope you are right and the club come to a different arrangement with Morris. 

41 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

I feel sorry for all those running shops and all the money from sales going to whoever is leasing the property out...

It’s not the same thing  though is it? In a retail environment only a portion of the sales goes to cover the cost of the rent. In a football ground not owned by the club 100% of sales goes to the owner of the ground - 0% goes to the club. 

8 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Financially, it makes complete sense not to buy the stadium. 1 off payment of £80m to buy vs £1.1m per season to rent.

Problem with that (if true) is that Morris gets to keep all the profits from the concessions at the stadium - the club will get no benefit from in stadium sales. My local club Oxford United do not own their stadium; the former owner does and the revenue loss is such that they have been desperately seeking somewhere to build a new stadium for years. 

27 minutes ago, Andicis said:

I honestly think Rooney has treated Sibley very very poorly. 

Rooney has some nerve telling a player he has to do more - if it wasn’t for Bielik being in the side for a few games we’d be in the bottom three playing this managers negative poo football. 

I couldn’t wait for Christmas - getting stuck into now and loving it!

24 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

I think you misunderstand. I don't blame Martin for not taking the contract offered. I am just pointing out that saying the club 'let him go' is a statement so inaccurate it should be on the side of a bus.

The fan club will eventually get over a 1 in 3 striker whose best season was 7 years ago but if 'let him go' and 'tantamount to constructive dismissal' help, go ahead.

The fan club may get over him but there is no way we will replace him - we haven’t got a pot to piss in to buy someone younger of comparable quality and no one on the books anywhere near as good. 

10 hours ago, Josh said:

Seeing Chris Martin leave and now join Bristol City, I feel like a part of my heart has been ripped out. I’d say it’s an end of an era. Russell, Bryson, Keogh and now Martin gone. What a shame. That 2013/2014 team was an absolute joy to watch. 

We won’t see another side like that for years, and certainly not under this manager. Free flowing football with Chris Martin the lynchpin banging in the goals. What a great time to be a Derby supporter that was.