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12 minutes ago, atherstoneram said:

They must be getting fed up now,regurgitating the same stuff but trying to put a different spin on it. We should run a sweepstake to see whose turn it is tomorrow.

IMO they're pushing the EFL to hit us hard, Most if not all Chairman are aware, This 9 point deduction is the focal point, Anything less and the other 71 clubs will be up in arms, Keep it in the headlines then once a statement has been released by the EFL/DCFC then the media can release their prepared story.

3 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Aug '19: Wayne Rooney joins club
Joins? Or agrees to join in January (at the end of his DC United contract)? Joins up with the squad earlier than planned, in November.

Jul '20: Derby capitulate and miss play-offs
8 points off 6th before lockdown, 9 points off at the end of the season.

May '21: Remain in division after Sheff Weds deducted points
This is noteworthy? They were deducted points before the season began

Jul '21: Unable to field team with only nine players available
Well, we certainly had more than that available. Senior players perhaps?

Sep '21: Deducted nine points
When did this happen? ?

I read a few of his quotes, Just another bandwagon jumper with little idea of whats going off

12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Opinion, no quotes from Derby manager or anyone else for that matter.

"But if the punishment comes quickly, I've been told Rooney and his squad feel they would have time to react, and potentially recover. The longer the negotiations drag on with the EFL, the later in the season the sanction hits, the harder it will be for Rooney and his players."

"A report/opinion from Rob Dorset from Sky Sports concerning our state of play/points deduction with the EFL"

My you're very good, You've managed to read what i'd posted and deduced that there isn't any quotes from WR or anyone else for that matter.

When I clearly stated that it was a report/opinion of Rob Dorsett

A report/opinion from Rob Dorset from Sky Sports concerning our state of play/points deduction with the EFL

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11688/12409428/Derby-reporter-notebook-wayne-rooney-wants-efl-points-deduction-closure-for-championship-recovery

22 minutes ago, StarterForTen said:

Which means the club can be held in a  continuous loop of 'negotiations' while sitting under the terms of a transfer embargo they have no means of getting out of. Nice.

Saturday 7th May, Derby County Vs Cardiff City 12-30pm K Off.

Derby County are 4 points clear of the relegation zone, Forest, Hull and Blackpool have been relegated, We can not be relegated, Cardiff City need a win to to stay in a play off place.

DCFC have been in Embargo all season, And have by all the odds not been relegated, Several of our players are walking wounded, 2 are suspended, We only have 15 available players to choose from and 3 of those are goalkeepers, DCFC are forced to pick a team that is seriously broken...we get beaten 0-6...Coventry, Hudds, Boro, QPR and Brum are in uproar as they were chasing the last place, Boro needed to win by more goals than Cardiff and miss out as they won 5-0,Boro believe we threw the game.

As one person said many years ago..."I'd love it-just love it.

15 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Did you gather it? It's all supposition as the EFL have already told us.

The only thing i'll gather are the leaves that fall in my garden.

Remember it was a quote from SJ not me.

3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said:

Well yes we gathered that.

But we don't know what they think we've done wrong and so can't see whether punishment is due or fit.

Well if SJ is correct, Then MM and his advisers have accepted the punishment for P&S overspend, Or did you gather that also?

Quote from Simon Jordon from Talk Sport

"It is in the League's rules, there is a parameter to be able to accept fines or points' penalties if you are more prepared to not go through appeal processes. So this is a matter of fact, they are going to get a points sanction."

Asked why the EFL does not just apply that sanction, Jordan replied: "Because if they apply it, then they (Derby) will appeal it. If they can get them to agree it, then there is no appeal.

"If they automatically apply the sanction, Derby go 'we'll appeal it', back into the long grass it goes for another year. If they can get an agreement between the League and the club, saying this is what we are going to do. That is what they are negotiating."

4 minutes ago, Spanish said:

I think they issued this to suppress the tabloid assertion f the points penalty

I think,They issued this statement to pacify the other League Chairmen, As when they looked at the media they contacted the EFL and said...is that all you've hit them with.

10 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Return of the bloke that looks like Steve Martin

Looks like one of Robin Hoods merry men, Little John, Nope, Little Brian, Nope, Oh yeh...Brian Little if he's gonna get the job then some help from Triar duck will be needed.

17 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said:

If we have accepted 9 it might be to speed through a sale, would also mean we can bring free agents in, international break coming up so if we got some in now they would get a month training for fitness

Our new owners who are happy at the outcome of very difficult negotiations.

33 minutes ago, angieram said:

West Brom were using throw ins to advance a good five yards up the pitch before they even took it last night. Every bloody time! ?

The beauty of that was, The Ref pointed to where the throw should be taken from and yet they still moved 5-6 yards forward, But then again in injury time when the Ref spoke to one of their coaching staff for Byrne pinching a few yards, The play was held up for 30seconds, The throw should have been taken in our own half but ended up being taken after a run up in their half.

Wasn't there some sort of word from the authorities to STOP! using a towel when cleaning the ball a few seasons back? they could only use their shirts.

1 hour ago, BramcoteRam84 said:

I thought his punching was outstanding to be fair. Those corners in the first half were wicked, right on top of him, being crowded by their players as well, there were three corners where if he hadn’t punched at all they would’ve gone in direct from the corner, he did well just get something on them.

Im not a Roos fan but last night wasn’t just his best performance for the Rams, it was IMO the best performance from a Rams goalkeeper that possibly I’ve ever seen in 30 years, or since the great Mr Poom - difference with Poom is that he delivered every week, we are talking one game here but credit where credit is due, he was outstanding 

He did a good job last night, He now needs to carry that on for the rest of the season, Not his biggest fan, Not a hater either, It would appear he's more suited to how we played last night rather than Friday night, Shot stopping was top drawer, Punching and claiming the ball he did well enough, One Swallow doesn't make a Summer, I hope he watches the full game back as I beleive they do, Roos can improve by being consistant.

Back line were great for him, 1st line of defence gave him more confidence, With that the defence had confidence in him, They looked a pretty good unit.

A special mention to the Premier league Ref, Bladdy awfull, How is it you let WBA clean the ball for their long throws but picked us up for slowing the game down, I guess all fans see their team penalised more than the opposition...but we seem to be penalised more ?, A blatent push in the back on Sibley I think and he plays on for them to cross the ball, And yet a simple touch on their players and it's a foul, Oh well that's just me being blinkered I guess.

Slept well, And my couple of hours at work this Morning was more enjoyable than normal after a DCFC game.

A well earned point...well done all, Big shout to the fans...sung all the game I thought we were playing at home?

4 minutes ago, ilkleyram said:

Flounded?

Founded 1884

Funded 1888

Flounded 2021

Scenario

1. EFL have seen the accounts, Had them scrutinised and found no wrongdoing.

If the above is correct then why the carry on?

2. EFL have seen the accounts, Found we have overspent and give DCFC a points deduction

If the above is correct why have they not found us guilty and published so we can move forward

3. Why would the EFL negotiate with DCFC if they are right?

If the above is correct surely they would hit us where it hurts

4.We've only overspent marginally and the points penalty is up for negotiation

MM believes the EFL have already had their blood out of DCFC so MM refuses to accept ANY points deduction

5.Is it possible that DCFC can go to a court and sue for restriction of trade

15 minutes ago, Archie said:

I would love that also and would be prepared to chip in for the very best legal representation possible. 

Same here, Shall we start a "Me Too" movement...oh wait a minute ?

16 minutes ago, hintonsboots said:

Agreed. If any breach of the rules was clear cut a defined points penalty would apply, and would have been dished out already.If It’s the EFL telling Mel he’s been a very naughty boy not sticking to straight line amortisation and other clubs don’t like it, then leave it it Nick DM’s hands. Personally I would love to see the EFL dragged through the civil courts.

By their short and hairys over hot coals

19 minutes ago, TheHomunculusLives said:

Am I the only fan who thinks that other than the debut goal v Salford, Morrison has actually been pretty underwhelming so far.

I understand he's probably still gaining match sharpness and he doesn't have great players around him, and I'd still pick him in our best team at the moment. But I'm seeing little evidence of this much heralded elite talent that means he could have been a world beater.

48 minutes ago, angieram said:

Really not sure why you are bothering with circular arguments about something that happened two years ago now, court fines been issued, community service orders completed and driving bans almost completed?

Forest fans singing " he should be in jail" at the game. Can't move on. 

Remind you of anyone?

Just to play Devils advocate Angie. Remember Chappaquiddick, Or the Texas School Book Depository Building, How about when Natalie Wood mystreriously drowned, And why was Christopher Walken on the yacht?

Where was Keogh ?

22 minutes ago, Big Trav said:

so ive not been on here for a good 4 or 5 days and this thread has gone from like 14 pages to 77. can someone fill me in on whats happened please? havent bothered with reading the forum tbh. sick of off the field stuff just want to watch football now

Well we have a champion female tennis player in Emma Radacanu, Ronaldo score 2 goals for his new club, India didn't want to play the 5th test, I think financial politics got hold there with the IPL, Verstapen has got pole position in the Italian Grand Prix, It's the Great North Run this Morning, And according to Sky Sports Troy Deeny ran Derby ragged for 20mins after coming off the bench.

On the plus side here's some football

23 minutes ago, Ramarena said:

Didn’t see the Hudds game so can’t comment, but to me the problem in both the Forest and Peterborough games was like last night- getting worked out. 

Against Forest it was similar to last night, they switched it around pressed higher, set traps and we didn’t react/have a plan to deal with it and we conceded.

Peterborough was a bit different in that we were trying out some really bizarre stuff (the splitting CDMs and the CB’s and keeper all on the 6 yard line for goal kicks). Peterborough kept pushing and finally got their reward.

I think our technical ability really shines in the middle third and sometimes the final third but we haven’t worked out how to link up that defensive third yet. We have some very good defenders, but are asking too much from them to be ball players in a division that applies merciless pressure. I’d love to know how much time Roos has possession of the ball vs other keepers in the division!

 

I watched Chelsea Vs Villa earlier on, Chelsea play the exact same, They were caught out once trying to hold onto the ball and Villa caught Saul in possesion, Any road, What Chelsea can do that we can't is, Once the back 4 have the ball they're looking to their midfield to exploit space in the middle of the park, Which they do very well, It can be a 10 yard pass or a 20 yard pass, It in most cases finds their man, We unfortunately keep playing the ball across the back 4 which leaves the opposition 2 things, Our back 4 get closed down, And midfield are picked up, Now in no way am I putting us in the same mould as Chelsea, Just as Brum are no Villa, Villa had as many if not more chances than Chelsea, But Chelsea have Lukaku, A target man with pace and strength, Villa had 2 leightweight forwards in Ings and Wakins...Goals wins you games, And it's goals that will be our down fall imo.

If WR wants to keep a passing game then he has to work out or instill movement, Control and pass around the opposition, And not taking too many passes backwards and side ways, We hear about togetherness in the camp, They had better bring this togetherness onto the pitch, With what we have it's going to be a tough ask.