kevinhectoring

Birds was a red. Stupid challenge to make, every man and his dog know the ref will even it up whether they mean to or not. Bielik will deputise and will make us better. I was calling at half time for Bielik for Bird and Rav for Festy. We needed control on the game, Bird plays too square and Festy slows play down too much with no purpose. 
 
Lovely technique again from Rav, the only player on the pitch who wouldn’t have played it over. On to the next. 
 
COYR

We had a short spell last season where our set pieces were fabulous. Courtesy of Shay Given apparently. We’re not strong up front so why are we not focusing on set pieces in training ? 
 

No way it gets appealed. It was reckless at best.

From what I saw it looked a red, will watch it again later. Either way it’s done, unless it’s blatantly an error by the ref he’ll get a 3 match ban and shouldn’t have been lunging in, there was no danger to our goal and I think he travelled a few yards before diving in on the guy. I like Bird and think he’s a miss if it is 3 games, he just didn’t need to make the challenge in the first place. Hopefully he learns from it and comes back strong for the final 3 games.
But that’s not the big story anyway, we did a win!!!! ? 

Dunno about the red card. Sure it was a lunge but Bird was leading more with his knees than his studs 

Dunno about the red card. Sure it was a lunge but Bird was leading more with his knees than his studs 

It is what it is only because we’ve decided to start Fozzy and Stearman on the bench. Solo runs by thrilling youngsters has proved pointless in the last 5 games why do we persist with it ? 

Think I would have gone for Fozzy over Buchanan…

Defaults all over the shop
- tax defaults by a guarantor(DCFC)
- a guarantor is in administration 
- a guarantor is insolvent 
- borrower insolvent (probably) 
- a guarantor subject to major litigation and regulatory proceedings 
etc etc 
default is not limited  to payment default - far from it 

If it exceeds the fire sale value on liquidation, yes they can 

There has been social media campaigns to see fans on the pitch. Bringing attention to our dire situation.
Going on the pitch tomorrow will only hurt the club, as in the staff, management and players.
Quantuma, EFL, will not have a sleepless night.
We are in desperate times, I understand, feel the frustration and anger.
I have created this topic using my own voice, my own thoughts with no communication from anyone at the club in the hope it keeps some fans off the pitch.
Just one fan, using his own voice asking you all to stop and think.
There has to be better ways in letting our voices be heard without affecting  the team. 
So far this season, the one positive we can take is the support for this club, it's been second to none. 
There is one man tomorrow that deserves that same level of support, one man that does not deserve to see his remaining games abandoned for crowd trouble.
Wayne Rooney. 
Come on Derby!

You say it’s speculation but it ‘fits’ with the signals we’re getting from Q, from bidders and the media. So I’d guess it’s close
MM now needs to sort this, as he (eventually) sorted the Gibbo claim. Can see he’ll find it difficult for several reasons but it just needs to be done  
 
 

Do you believe anything they say?
They also wrote "That" article.
TBH I don't know who I believe.

Best wishes to you, as a fellow cancer sufferer your obvious bravery is inspiring. Enjoy the match. 

Exactly right. Q are supposed to be running and controlling the M&A process and they don’t have the expertise, the resources or the support. Ashley has been out bid but he and his advisers are smart enough to know how to throw spanners into the works so as to force their way back into the room. And Q just can’t handle it 
MM wove a complex web. It would have been a challenging mandate even for a first class team and Q is not that 

Exactly right. Q are supposed to be running and controlling the M&A process and they don’t have the expertise, the resources or the support. Ashley has been out bid but he and his advisers are smart enough to know how to throw spanners into the works so as to force their way back into the room. And Q just can’t handle it 
MM wove a complex web. It would have been a challenging mandate even for a first class team and Q is not that 

Yeah pretty much 
Quantuma make very good money from IP appointments. Why on earth would they put their licence at risk ? It just makes no sense 

My friend has not long left of his life, He has terminal cancer and has maybe only weeks to live.  He had his first season ticket when he came out of the army in the mid fifties, and has had it every season since, and then when he married in 1963 his wife had one too, they never missed a home match, but then covid came along and they have not been again. We have a mutual friend who lives in the USA he is in the UK this week end and is taking my friend to what is likely to be his last match ever. I'm just hoping if there are any protests it wont affect the match. So please spare a thought or a prayer if your so minded on Saturday. I wont say his name as he hated social media as much as he loved the Rams. So UP THE RAMS  P will be thinking of you.  

I’ve heard Quantuma have gone into administration ?

Ok so after reading the statement tonight I went away and gathered my thoughts. I think how I feel about this is quite different to others, but I hope people can read it and understand where I’m coming from. I have no positive conclusions, and I get some people aren’t really up for something like this so if it’s you then feel free to ignore this post and read on. It’s going to be long, unapologetically ponderous and contain atleast one swear word! Also I’ll be the first to admit, what I think is going on has swung wildly throughout this thread, so I’m not saying I’m 100% correct.
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My main point I want to get over here, is that I’m very concerned that Derby (anything connected to the club or the community) has found itself in the middle of a pissing contest between a lot of rich men. We were warned about this happening way back at the start of administration, by Mel in his interview with Ed Dawes and I think by Q early on too. That a lot of interest is expressed by people and you’ve got to shift through the chancers essentially. The one thing that seems weird to say at the minute is that Derby County is a huge club, and there are people out there trying to snatch us on the cheap and are trying to upset the process to put themselves in pole position without having the best offer.
Now let’s look at the culprits who’ve been involved:
Mel Morris- Now Mel’s the biggest and most important one, but there are key differences here to everyone else involved. One is that Mel has been involved in the pissing contest for *years* now with the EFL, but also he’s upfront his involvement. Many won’t like this, but I do think Mel is somewhat sceptical by some of those in the bidding process and whether they are right for the club and so are the admins. I’ll be clear, im not ‘pro-Mel’ and hope my past posts would be enough to prove that! He’s the one who’s got us in the mess and this is all his doing, but I think hes aware of that fact and is trying to do the right deal with the right person. It’s not nice for us, but I can’t see how Mel’s current position works in any other way? I have said this repeatedly but Mel loses a lot more than just money if no deal is made, but if it goes to the wrong person he also loses out. Him and the admins need the right deal here which isn’t easy.
Chris Kirchner- He may be out of the race and shouting from the sidelines but he’s been a problem for a long time. First he went about cooing Rooney but then was rattling off on Twitter until recently. He tried to be clever and gain an advantage, it didn’t work and went after the administrators. It didn’t help anything. Essentially I think he showed himself up and we became wary.
The Binnies- Bit more of an interesting on this I think, but it’s a similar pattern, came out guns blazing about their bid, all goes quiet and then blame the administrators. But I think the important thing with The Binnies, Kirchner and Ashley is that the see a club with top facilities, the potential to grow and everything else and want it on the cheap. When they don’t have a strong enough plan in how to achieve that potential then they fall short in the eyes of the admins and Morris.
Mike Ashley - The most well known and currently the one trying to pull everything in his favour. No care for anything else, he’s interested in Derby the asset and not the club. Everyone is reluctant to deal with him but if all else fails he will still be there willing to pay the lowest price possible. 
Steve Gibson and Couhig- This is old ground we don’t really want to get into, but they caused a major blockage in this and caused damage to the club. Why? Because they could.
There are more minor players involved too, ‘the itk game’ on social media of people putting confusing and unhelpful info out there which is slanted to agenda which is usually ‘Mel is bad’. Which I get, fully, but to what end is that helpful to the position the club is actually in? Journalists are doing it now too and it’s frankly confirmation bias for clicks. They are fuelling the fire to put everything in place to muddy the process, leaving it open to MA. Also don’t forget the role the EFL have had for years in this, but I think that’s down to just being useless more than anything 
Whilst everyone is trying to sort everything to their own means who’s left in the middle? The fans, the players, the management have taken hthe brunt of it. Arguably Q too, but frankly it’s their job to take it somewhat (All I’ll say about them is I think they got done over a bit when taking the job, but they have not helped themselves throughout this whole process). We are seeing the face of modern football for what it is, a contest played out on Twitter, in meeting rooms and through the press, between men for which have no passion for what football is.
Whats next? As I said at the start, there is no positive here. As fans we need to accept relegation and a likely points deduction but see the bigger picture. If you want to protest anything on Saturday then let it be about what these people have resorted this football club to. Expose the games they have played and the effects on the community around Derby County. I still think we will have a club at the end of this, but it is up to us to define what Derby County is and not anyone who takes us over.
Finally I didn’t include Appleby, that tweet came through just as I started writing this so decided to exclude him from my thinking. BUT FWIW his group was the one who haven’t really been involved so they don’t really fit in with what I’m saying!
Apologies for a long read, I’ve tried to spell/grammar check but if something doesn’t make sense I’ll try and clarify!

Yeah pretty much 
Quantuma make very good money from IP appointments. Why on earth would they put their licence at risk ? It just makes no sense 

Yeah pretty much 
Quantuma make very good money from IP appointments. Why on earth would they put their licence at risk ? It just makes no sense 

Yeah pretty much 
Quantuma make very good money from IP appointments. Why on earth would they put their licence at risk ? It just makes no sense 

Yeah, the Quantuma statement of affairs lists the MSD charge as secured against a whole pile of stuff, including what looks like the entire playing staff at ~£39m (book value, obviously) and buildings at ~£7.5m, which I'd guess is the training ground.  There's no way there's enough there in total (given the nebulous nature of player values etc) to properly satisfy a lender for £20m+ IMO.