Dean (hick) Saunders

Only time will tell - just don't beat yourself up about it.

Academy spend is exempt from P&S, but sales are not. So even if you spend £40m on the academy but only receive £1m in sales, you'd still be £1m better off for P&S than if you didn't have an academy at all.
Since the start of the 11/12 season, I believe we have spent the best part of £40m on the academy. We have have sold players for about £32m (based on transfermarkt and newspaper figures). But, we also have a number of players in the first team who will have a non-paper value. Assign values to the likes of Buchanan, Bird, Knight and Sibley, and I think it's fair to say we've got more out of the academy than we've put in

And I have 1 ?

Maybe so, but I honestly don't know anything about the guy, never heard of him or this Matt Southall he is mates with (I thought Southall was an ex- Everton goalie!) These days everyone is an amateur detective and a lot of what I see on twitter and here is a feeding frenzy of trying to find out every possible bad thing about him and condemn him for it.
I don't think football is a democracy, no, in fact if I take a step back I think it is probably run by some people who are pretty corrupt. But I obviously don't care about that enough to boycott it any more than I don't care enough to stop buying stuff off Amazon or watching Sky Sports. So I suck it up and generally keep my mouth shut on this side of the game.
I don't think the comparison with politicians works well. Politicians are publicly elected officials placed there to represent us, but football club owners? No they are the guys with the money and/or the ambition. Football clubs are private companies accountable to shareholders not to fans, who at best are the ever-woolley "stakeholders". 
Again, I return to the statement that if you find that morally unacceptable, then walk away from it.
Or at least wait until there is something to be vocal about. There really isn't yet, is there? 
You may all be proved right in the long or even the short term, but at least give the guy a chance.
I am not sure the football club owner exists that would meet the exacting standards of some of our fans.
 

What will be will be. Whether it’s a new manager, new signing or new owner, we can speculate, worry, wail and gnash our teeth as much as we want, but we won’t know whether it turns out good, bad or indifferent until we see what transpires.
Its quite understandable why there is some concern as we’ve had some dodgy owners in the past and we’ve seen what has happened elsewhere. However, I do tend to think some of the comments on here and elsewhere are a bit like people are just trying to make sure they can say ‘I told you so’ when/if it goes wrong and look clever. 
The only thing I’m particularly feeling at the moment is sadness that Mel is selling up. Football has ups and downs and I don’t really blame Mel for where we are. He’s backed his managers, he’s backed people he trusted to run the club, he has hired managers who should’ve done better than they did. Everything he’s done, and invested, has been with the best of intentions. The only thing I think he got really wrong was sacking SMC twice. But even then, I always work on the basis that nobody sets out to make errors, so I don’t hold it against him. 
I’m sure whatever happens, it will be interesting.

People who think speed limits are targets and not a maximum speed limit.
People who tailgate and flash as you're over taking someone.
People who drive slowly but then speed up as you're overtaking them.

Deporting immigrants who break the law is a standard approach in many countries.
Angela Merkel recently voted against same-sex marriage in the German Parliament, where the ruling party are her Christian Democrats and therefore religiously influenced conservatives. 
In my experience it's standard for anyone on the left to label anyone who disagrees with them "far right". It's the nature of the polarized societies we live in, driven in large part by social media algorithms. 
I'll judge him as I find him.

I lost the stadium once.
mind I'd had several pints in Jorrocks, The Tap, The Alex, Brunny, and the Merry Widows beforehand.

I think the only 2 things, imo, Mel has done wrong in his spell is
1/ Sacked Mac the 2nd time
2/ trusted certain managers with a poo ton of his cash.
 

2 pounds bloody hell we'll have to spend it wisely 

Lawrence is a streaky/form type player. Fingers crossed he can help us over the line with a few goals/assists.

Come on Wycombe!

Wow. What a lot of doom and gloom. Who cares what Birmingham’s result was? We’re well clear of the bottom 3, that’s all that matters. 
if Brum finish 4th from bottom or 5th from bottom, how does it make any difference to us?
the only result apart from ours (and forests) I’m looking our for each week now is Rotherham’s. Match them or better them, and we’re doing fine with room to spare. I might get a bit doom and gloomy when we inevitably loose next game and they win one. That’s my only criteria for a depressed outlook. 

Lockdown dog buyers. EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM.

Sibley has shown what he can do, but that was last season, this season he has not shown anything that deserves a starting place. People have been asking why he hasn't been starting and he confirms this is the reason, same people then get upset at him saying this...priceless ?

Because a teenager taking an opportunity to work for one of the greatest coaches of a generation, Pep Guardiola, at what is currently one of the top clubs in Europe is a real insult to Derby.
Get over it. 
EDIT: This was in response to the door shut comment earlier in the thread, forgot to quote.

Some of the football was pretty Meh at times..
If he had stayed without Mount and Tomori I suspect that last season would have been a big struggle for him with no better finish than Cocu achieved (and the usual crowd calling for his sacking).

Hi...

Sigh...
Very rarely start a thread and I am called out for annoying people... 
Some irony here somewhere..
Night all...

Sigh...
Very rarely start a thread and I am called out for annoying people... 
Some irony here somewhere..
Night all...

So after 133 years of playing football, we've averaged a very "meh" 1.4 points per game. Mid-table.
Just about sums us up, really.
I blame Keogh

9 clear of the bottom 3 now, even though Rotherham have a game in hand still, I'm happy enough with that. There's also still teams around us, such as Huddersfield, who look awful and are performing much worse than us, so I'd be confident that we can keep ourselves above them too.
 

You don’t realise how comfy my sofa is B4. Glad you are on the Rooney Promotion Train.

Did no else make pancakes? 
I did savoury then sweet. Here we have buttermilk pancakes topped with shallots, woodland mushrooms, streaky bacon and maple syrup.