Oldben

Years spent clearing out the dead wood only to pile it back on again later.
Aluko, 32. Baldock, 32. Stearman, 33. Davies, 36. Jagielka, 38.
I would say they’re all past it, but I’m not sure some of them ever even had it. We really need this takeover to go through ASAP.

That's a bit ambitious for our current policy, "he looked alright, briefly, five to ten years ago"

Are you suggesting that our method of signing players by going "he's looked alright in recent months!" and only worrying about how to fit them in once we've signed them is a flawed way of approaching the transfer market? But it's served us so well!

In my opinion Rooney was taken on as manager as an opportunity to encourage potential buyers.
If that's back fired, then that's not on Rooney as he's not a tried and tested manager, not that helps the club.
I dont think Mel will sack Rooney, thats an extra cost to Mel.
 I'm guessing, Mel's only goal at present is to sell the club.
I'm not sure why the club sale is taking so long, surely the way forward is bringing in a football club sales specialist firm get them to find a buyer.
Don't know how long Mel would want to keep funding the players wages, assuming he stops doing so the efl have made it clear the club have a 3 point deduction for every month the wages are not paid.
That would relegate the club, assuming say you had two months when the wages were not paid.
Just because Rooney is a former England player and has a lot of football knowledge, doesn't mean he will ever be a great manager.
Not that it would happen, but I really wish lampard was the manager again.

https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2021/07/buxton-it-is-a-great-opportunity-to-come-back#:~:text=TO COME BACK”-,Jake Buxton,-has spoken of
3 years younger than Jagielka, we know who's playing centre half V Hudersfield!

In my opinion Rooney was taken on as manager as an opportunity to encourage potential buyers.
If that's back fired, then that's not on Rooney as he's not a tried and tested manager, not that helps the club.
I dont think Mel will sack Rooney, thats an extra cost to Mel.
 I'm guessing, Mel's only goal at present is to sell the club.
I'm not sure why the club sale is taking so long, surely the way forward is bringing in a football club sales specialist firm get them to find a buyer.
Don't know how long Mel would want to keep funding the players wages, assuming he stops doing so the efl have made it clear the club have a 3 point deduction for every month the wages are not paid.
That would relegate the club, assuming say you had two months when the wages were not paid.
Just because Rooney is a former England player and has a lot of football knowledge, doesn't mean he will ever be a great manager.
Not that it would happen, but I really wish lampard was the manager again.

If we are bottom 5 form, then we won't survive a points deduction. ?

Jaglieka rumoured to be offered 22k per week. 
Thats crazy when there's obviously better players available

Yorkshire examiner links us with offering trials to old cast offs ...
Jagielka was released by Sheffield United this summer and played 16 times in his second stint with the Blades, generally showing himself to be a steady hand still in the top flight when called upon at the age of 38.
Stearman meanwhile is now 33 years old and has been let go by Huddersfield Town, despite playing 21 times for the Terriers in the Championship last season.
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So when we re-submit our accounts to the EFL, if they're not compliant to FFP, we face a points deduction.
Until we submit the accounts, we're under a transfer embargo.
After struggling, and avoiding the drop by the narrowest of margins, with the squad we had last season, we've since lost players out of contract along with the loanees.
Our star player is out injured. Our bright young things have regressed.
We have a threadbare squad and, judging by those on trial, we're drinking at the last dregs saloon. Well we would be but we can't even afford a round there.
There's no real sign of an imminent takeover and I believe Mel will keep us ticking over but, understandably, he won't do more than that any longer.
So what chance do we have this season?
This of all seasons, the 50th anniversary of our first top division championship.

With Derby’s recruitment the problem is we actually need 8 or 9 new players to achieve the 3 players good enough to fill those positions. The rest will be jozefsoons or Blackmans or anyas or Ibes (mark 2).
 

Personally think we need 8-10 players depending on youth players like Brown stepping up and if Davies stays - 
GK: Roos, Marshall
RB: Byrne, Ebosele/McDonald
CB: CB, CB, CB, CB (Davies), Solomon/Cashin/JBrown
LB: Buchanan, Forsyth
CM: Shinnie, Bird, Knight, Bielik, CDM
AM: AM, Sibley, Watson
RW: Jozwiak, RW, Wilson
LW: Lawrence, LW
ST: ST, ST, Kazim, Stretton/Duncan
4x CBS - Mengi on loan likely who can cover RB too + Davies hopefully signs a new deal. Then 1 more on loan + 1 on a free.
We need 2 wingers with Tyree Wilson potentially pushing to be in the squad or cover for injuries/suspensions and the same for strikers with Stretton & Duncan pushing their cases.
Personally I feel like getting 5 loans & 5 on a free isn't beyond the realms of possibility and I also think that given the number of free agents and this summer's market due to covid there is a good chance of getting 5 decent free's in too.
So say for example based off a mix of players previously linked and possible options:
CB: Davies (renews)
CB: Mengi (loan)
CB: Gibson (loan)
CB: Lees (free)
CDM: Besic (free)
CAM: Garner (loan) or Pritchard (free)
RW: Mendez-Laing (free)
LW: Elanga (loan)
ST: Niasse or Wickham (free)
ST: Davis, Simms or Delap (loan)
 

This is how I'm expecting the squad to look for the coming season.
GK: Roos, Marshall
RB: Byrne, Ebosele/McDonald
CB: CB, CB, Davies, Solomon/Cashin/JBrown
LB: Buchanan, Forsyth
CM: Knight, Bird
CM: Shinnie, Bielik, CM
AM: Sibley, Watson
RW: Jozwiak, RW
LW: Lawrence, LW
CF: CF, Kazim, Stretton
If we sign more than that, then we've either been taken over or sold someone.
Depending on who those 6 signings are, I'd be quite happy with that.

I think it was more down to him being only half fit, 34, and in some squads at the time our only recognised centre forward.
I disagree with it tactically, but could understand why it might be being done, it's just that when half fit he was losing a lot of the physical battles he'd previously been winning, his actual heading ability is not the the greatest so playing as a target man didn't really work, and it meant he stopped being of much use outside the box as well.
However that was probably better than asking him to do too much and ending up with nobody to play there at all!
Knight and Sibley are both players who if played centrally are a threat when running with it and playing a 1-2 with a deep lying forward, as we saw when they played with Martin, Shinnie too but he's less likely to be a goal threat.

For them to use the word regrettably when their own legal counsel told them there are no grounds for appeal is ducking outrageous, unprofessional and proves they are out to get us based on some twits opinion rather than cold hard evidence.
bankers  
 

More like not wanting massive protest outside there doors with thousands angry Derby fans and press involved so had to back down but like one person said this fight is not over yet.
But hopeful now take over will happen and season ticket details will be out asp.

Efl and Derby have 14 days to appeal once the information is published

TamworthRam,
No, it hasn't. You said keeping Rotherham up would be the maddest thing. Really? I pointed out that the entire football industry is bizarre then. We could get relegated - retrospective unlikely - in the next month yet elite clubs can bend/break rules, or accrue loses in the hundreds of millions (Juventus).
I'm focusing on the final round because - as said already - three sides had a realistic chance to survive the drop and one of them wasn't Wycombe unless they scored 13 goals. Yes, 13 goal away wins are the norm, you see them every week on Quest. They were as good as relegated in name by Matchday 45. And yet that is the side who may be ultimately reprieved. I've already explained myself at length. 
I've pointed out to you how Wycombe won 5 games in 35? Does that sound competitive to you taking into account a whole season?  Rotherham lost to Wycombe at home, so they only have themselves to blame, but this is a side who allegedly created as many chances as Watford (flagged up on Quest). My main bone of contention is that one side was affected by Covid, rightly or wrongly calling games off, (no further action taken by the EFL), another was not. This is a factor not taken into account by a league table.
I've given you examples about how a backlog of games can affect sides, or rest between games can help footballers recovery time.
Don't you think sides, like Wycombe, knew through the football grapevine that Derby could still be relegated,? The whole farce is also tinged with cynicism. 'We're all in it together, one big football family, the Championship.' No, it isn't if you can find a way, any way to circumvent things. 
Why is it madness? I think it's mad that you don't seem to be taking into account the fact that this season has not been like any normal season in recent history. 46 games played between mid Sep to early May?  Really?  Where was the provision for any possible Covid outbreaks to be rescheduled? There were none because the EFL happily wended on their way because they have to keep tv companies & the public happy & entertained, the former, in particular, as its paymaster, a source of revenue to clubs . Why do you think the government were happy to have football back rather than arts & culture? Because it kept a restive public entertained in a time of crisis. 'The show must go on'.
Football without fans - which, to be honest, I found as pointless as the point about Rotherham, in fairness,  some posters seem to think I am making. Broadcasters putting artificial effects/crowd noises to generate atmosphere in games that looked liked glorified friendlies. You don't think that's odd? 
 

Taken from a post on the Wycombe messageboard today
"For what it's worth, a friend of mine who has friends within Derby's first team squad tells me they are all very concerned. The club aren't telling them anything, most of them think they're destined for League One this summer as a result and, given most of them have contracts which include significant pay cuts for relegation, they're almost in open mutiny. Wayne Rooney is being kept away from media over the Euros as they don't want him getting questions on Derby's plight..."

To be honest, if you think I'm mad, then I think you're unimaginative. Yes, to (a). The cynic in me thinks Paul Warne was also upset final day because results meant Rotherham would not even be in a position to benefit from any possible sanction against us (relegation) with the EFL charges/appeal still hanging over us. Wycombe's upturn in form in the last 11 is remarkable. How did they manage 6W when they could only manage 5 in 35? I think clubs at the bottom knew, going on from what happened with Barnsley, that finishing third from bottom could open that possibility.
I thought the entire schedule last season mad as the EFL was fixated in packing in 46 games, barely six weeks after the end of a curtailed season, within a set time frame, international breaks etc, with little room for flexibility.  Playing games over a short period of time does affect teams. Even half a day's advantage can matter in a tournament like the Euros (5live build up to Sweden/Ukraine). It's before my time, but Derby possibly benefited from Leeds playing on a Mon after the FA Cup win in 1972. 
How would you describe the notion of 'competition'? Your take on it is the conventional, common-sense one. Yes, the league table at the end of the season doesn't lie. I agree with you here. Then there is the notion of 'Last Man Standing', yes? Knock-out competitions. Which is essentially what the final day turned out to be. And last season was not like every season, was it? It took place against the background of a pandemic.
 
Relegation permutations ahead of final round of Sky Bet Championship matches | BT Sport
What do Wycombe need to do to survive? Win 13-0 and hope Wednesday win by one goal at Derby.
Like that was ever going to happen. 13-0 away wins. (Well, they may happen the way the EFL are treating us, I fear for the morale of a squad desperate for additions)
"So, yes, the maddest thing".
Hmm, again, we seem to differ in our concept of madness. You seem to think what I suggest is mad? It's OK for Wigan to get relegated within the EFL framework due to a negligent owner, but elite clubs within a wider framework to flout rules (PSG, Man City) get a slap on the wrist, a fine/temp. ban on transfers and then spend £200m in another window, or report losses of £275m (Juventus)? Yes, it's another argument entirely, but maybe the entire game is mad altogether, a bizarre Tea Party out of Alice in Wonderland with Robbie Savage running around in midfield as the Mad Hatter.

Ultimately Derby need a working relationship with the efl.
It wasn't the fault of the efl, that Derby did the amortisation.
The real unfairness is the parachute payments to clubs relegated from the Premier league.
These payments make fair competition in the championship impossible.
So clubs who are not given an equal shout, take risks in an attempt to compete.
The efl want to be seen to have power.
At the moment the efl are reflecting on either taking points from the club, but with a transfer embargo on buying players and not paying high wages for free agents means Derby could be relegated next season instead of this. They have basically put Derby in a place where nothing works for them.
If Wycombe stay in the championship instead of Derby, Wycombe will be relegated next season, they don't have the fan levels of Derby nor the ability to fairly spend enough to compete with the other teams in the championship.
Wycombe are rubbish, don't see how they are meant to get better.
If Derby are relegated they will lose an estimated 10 million a year, as opposed to Wycombe 2 million a year.
If Derby are relegated, Mel could expect to sell Derby for 20 million, who would pay more.
Wycombe are estimated to be worth 7 million.
 

You forgot who probably shouldn’t even have been in the championship in the first place

When the local paper headlines "Derby are heading for another season of crisis", that's bleak.
The article goes on to say how this can be turned around.
Looking at positions within the team that needs to strengthen, how do you strengthen when your looking at free agents and loans.
Loans depend in part on Rooneys name, but are clubs really saying to him, here have one of our best young players on loan.
Do young players really recognise Rooney as a star in today, and therefore want to play for Derby.
How much quality can Derby attract or afford to bring in.
Imagine if you were the new owner at Derby, would you trust Rooney to lead the club forward and get them out of trouble in coming season, based on last seasons results.

That short spell was between Bielik coming back from injury and then getting injured again

But if those goods were fit for purpose when they left the seller’s premises, and got misused and broken by the aforementioned ‘vulnerable person’, then it’s not the fault of the seller, is it?